1879 Dubuque Photo -Will the Real Comiskey please stand up or sit down?

Directly · #1 03-03-2013, 06:44 PM

I did paste my Comiskey image with the other 1887 Comiskey Dubuque image-- They match???

1879 Dubuque Nortwestern League photograph with William Gleason and later in 1884. (The Gleason Brothers were both born in ST Louis, played baseball there, worked there and both died there.)

William Gleason was born in St Louis May 12 1858. He began his baseball career in Peoria Illinois (Peoria Reds) along with Tom Loftus, Charles Radbourn, brother Jack Gleason, Cliff Carroll and Jack Rowe. These players transferred early in 1879 to Dubuque to join Charles Comiskey.William Gleason was born in St Louis May 12, 1858 and died there July 21, 1932.

Sitting in both Dubuque Photos first we find the 20 year old little William Gleason with Comiskey for their 1879 Northwestern players Photo and again nine years later as major league players in 1884.

1887 was the last year on record Gleason played with Comiskeys St Louis team batting .336 In 1889 he ended his playing career with Louisville batting .216.

He played 8 years in 795 games with a .275 a lifetime batting average.

Runscott · #2 03-03-2013, 06:50 PM

Gleason was 5'8", Comiskey was 6'0".

You have lost your mind.

sayhey24 · #3 03-03-2013, 06:55 PM

Oh my, this just keeps getting funnier and funnier.
How can you compare heights when in one photo the people are sitting and in the other they are standing?

Also how did "Gleason" in the 1879 photo go from looking like a 14 year old boy to a very mature looking man in the span of just five years?

Greg

thecatspajamas · #4 03-03-2013, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by sayhey24

Oh my, this just keeps getting funnier and funnier.
How can you compare heights when in one photo the people are sitting and in the other they are standing?

Not only that, but they're not sitting at the same level! Is Gleason is also standing in a hole in the photo you showed? Because in your photo, your "Gleason" is seated on something lower than your "Comiskey", as evidenced by comparing their belt lines...

Directly · #5 03-03-2013, 07:22 PM

+++ Now we have my 1879 Minor league Gleason who resembles Gleason in his St Louis major League 1884 photo--WOW+++
Several have looked at the two different ---DUBUQUE-- photos.They believe the two 1879 Comiskey photos indeed are the same player---thanks this is getting good.

So if Gleason is actually sitting lower thats a great point, meaning he is taller than the photo suggest.

HRBAKER · #6 03-03-2013, 08:18 PM

Theatre of the Absurd!
It's been good for a while now.

CW · #7 03-03-2013, 08:40 PM

This is turning out to be what we call on the poker forums a "level" (ie. to post something which is intentionally deceptive, typically with the hope of eliciting a certain predictable reaction).

It is entertaining, I'll give him that.

Runscott · #8 03-03-2013, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Directly

+++ Now we have my 1879 Minor league Gleason who resembles Gleason in his St Louis major League 1884 photo--WOW+++
Several have looked at the two different ---DUBUQUE-- photos.They believe the two 1879 Comiskey photos indeed are the same player---thanks this is getting good.

It's a one-man 'Cobb & Edwards' show.

Runscott · #9 03-03-2013, 08:54 PM

Guys, this is really freaking me out, but I just realized.....

I AM CHARLES COMISKEY!!!!!

I was only a kid at the time, and had no idea, but now it's all creeping back into my consciousness, and it's tough. Someone please help.

slidekellyslide · #10 03-03-2013, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Runscott

Guys, this is really freaking me out, but I just realized.....

I AM CHARLES COMISKEY!!!!!

I was only a kid at the time, and had no idea, but now it's all creeping back into my consciousness, and it's tough. Someone please help.

Post Of The Day!

thecatspajamas · #11 03-03-2013, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Runscott

Guys, this is really freaking me out, but I just realized.....

I AM CHARLES COMISKEY!!!!!

I was only a kid at the time, and had no idea, but now it's all creeping back into my consciousness, and it's tough. Someone please help.

Yup, head's exactly the same size. We have a match!

Wait, do you live in St. Louis...?

HRBAKER · #12 03-03-2013, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Runscott

Guys, this is really freaking me out, but I just realized.....

I AM CHARLES COMISKEY!!!!!

I was only a kid at the time, and had no idea, but now it's all creeping back into my consciousness, and it's tough. Someone please help.

Always thought you were a hot dog Scott. Which one are you in the picture?

bmarlowe1 · #13 03-03-2013, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Directly

Several have looked at the two different ---DUBUQUE-- photos.They believe the two 1879 Comiskey photos indeed are the same player

We don't know who "they" are, and in any case as anyone who is actually knowledgable about this subject will tell you, that means very little. Finding a person in an old photos that (to some) resembles a famous person is a very common occurrence. You certainly have succeeded in taking it to an absurd level.

Directly · #14 03-03-2013, 11:54 PM

Next lets discuss the Radbourn comparison--unfortunately the hat hides the hair-line.--Is there any photo existing showing Radbourn without his mustache for comparisons?

Just recently on 60 minutes they interviewed the soldier that killed the most wanted man in the world. The soldier said he was trained with photographs to study the facial features to identify his target. He went on to say when he confronted the man in Pakistan, BL appearance had changed, he had changed his beard,etc--There was only one facial feature that CONFIRMED his man--do you know what it was???---

Directly · #15 03-04-2013, 12:10 AM

Later I will compare Loftus and Carroll--that would make five Northwestern baseball players---until!--

dgo71 · #16 03-04-2013, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Directly

Just recently on 60 minutes they interviewed the soldier that killed the most wanted man in the world. The soldier said he was trained with photographs to study the facial features to identify his target. He went on to say when he confronted the man in Pakistan, BL appearance had changed, he had changed his beard,etc--There was only one facial feature that CONFIRMED his man--do you know what it was???---

You are masterful at providing "evidence" that could only be even vaguely described as somewhat circumstancial.

Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.

sayhey24 · #17 03-04-2013, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Directly

Next lets discuss the Radbourn comparison--unfortunately the hat hides the hair-line.

Just recently on 60 minutes they interviewed the soldier that killed the most wanted man in the world. The soldier said he was trained with photographs to study the facial features to identify his target. He went on to say when he confronted the man in Pakistan, BL appearance had changed, he had changed his beard,etc--There was only one facial feature that CONFIRMED his man--do you know what it was???---

I'm not sure what this obsession is with hairlines, since that's a feature that changes over time. But since hair was mentioned, notice how the hair in the fake Radbourn is a medium shade, leaning toward light, while the hair that can be seen in the photo of the real Radbourn is jet black (although the photo quality is poor). In a recent post in another thread here in the memorabilia section, artist Graig Kreindler also portrays Radbourn with black hair, and I believe he bases his paintings on period photographs.

Greg

slidekellyslide · #18 03-04-2013, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Directly

Next lets discuss the Radbourn comparison--unfortunately the hat hides the hair-line.

Just recently on 60 minutes they interviewed the soldier that killed the most wanted man in the world. The soldier said he was trained with photographs to study the facial features to identify his target. He went on to say when he confronted the man in Pakistan, BL appearance had changed, he had changed his beard,etc--There was only one facial feature that CONFIRMED his man--do you know what it was???---

The only way to identify a Radbourn photo is by his middle finger.

Runscott · #19 03-04-2013, 10:50 AM

Who needs hairline analysis? I'm fairly sure that you could use simple algebra to prove that Radbourn's grandson is Comiskey�s grandfather and that Comiskey is the ghost of his own father.

(they used to do this all the time)

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