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Old 03-15-2013, 12:46 PM
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No one said Harvin does not have more upside, especially at this stage of their respective careers. But the 49ers are on the edge of a Super Bowl now, and I think this pushes them to a win.

Boldin is clearly the better receiver. Far better hands and better route running, and hugely more reliable. Harvin is the exciting playmaker, but as a slot receiver/flanker. The Vikings QB did not keep Percy down. He makes most of his catches in the backfield and rarely ran long routes, not because of a bad scheme but because that's what he does best--yards after catch. Basically I could throw the ball to Percy Harvin, so don't blame the Vikings for not using him correctly or picture him as some deep threat in Seattle or you will be disappointed.

Claiming that Boldin is not the featured receiver misses the point, and is akin to saying Cris Carter was not very good because he had Randy Moss. When you need a big grab anyplace on the field and with tight coverage, like say a backshoulder grab on 4th down in this past postseason, Boldin is the guy. If you need a guy to bitch about not getting enough touches, not making enough money, or how this or that hurts, get Percy Harvin.
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No one said Harvin does not have more upside, especially at this stage of their respective careers. But the 49ers are on the edge of a Super Bowl now, and I think this pushes them to a win.

Boldin is clearly the better receiver. Far better hands and better route running, and hugely more reliable. Harvin is the exciting playmaker, but as a slot receiver/flanker. The Vikings QB did not keep Percy down. He makes most of his catches in the backfield and rarely ran long routes, not because of a bad scheme but because that's what he does best--yards after catch. Basically I could throw the ball to Percy Harvin, so don't blame the Vikings for not using him correctly or picture him as some deep threat in Seattle or you will be disappointed.

Claiming that Boldin is not the featured receiver misses the point, and is akin to saying Cris Carter was not very good because he had Randy Moss. When you need a big grab anyplace on the field and with tight coverage, like say a backshoulder grab on 4th down in this past postseason, Boldin is the guy. If you need a guy to bitch about not getting enough touches, not making enough money, or how this or that hurts, get Percy Harvin.
Boooo! This post makes you seem like a hater.

I guess my point is, Boldin is past his prime and will contribute, but not crazily like he did in the playoffs. One big thing to remember is that the niners defense did not play as good this season as they have in the past few years...and they did lose their best corner to the Buccaneers yesterday. This niner team has changed, but will still be one of the better teams in the NFC. The Ravens throw a lot more than the niners do, so Boldin's impact will be mostly the critical 3rd downs and such. I'm just not sure when Boldin became such a premiere receiver? I guess I missed the memo. He's hit or miss most of the time, but hit a hot streak in the playoffs...doesn't make him elite or anything.

If the Seahawks are smart, they will not overuse Percy. His value is amongst the best in the league at his position, but just like anyone else with over usage, is susceptible to injury. I like the Seahawks this year and hope they win it all. Russell Wilson surprised everyone last year and with Percy this year, the sky is the limit. They call players like Percy a "play maker" for a reason.

And as far as the Broncos #1 corner covering Boldin for some of the game...well, if you watched the game, the Broncos weren't covering anyone...hence the miracle bomb at the end of regulation.

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Old 03-15-2013, 03:24 PM
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Sorry, I don't mean to sound like a hater. As a lifelong Viking fan I am grateful for what Percy provided, but found him to be very frustrating. He just seems to have problems getting along with folks and becomes a distraction. That is overlooked of course if a trophy is hoisted at the end of the year--if not, however, it can fester. I am glad the Vikings got a decent return for Percy, and he may turn out to be a superstar, but I really won't miss him. BTW, this is the third WR the Hawks have pilfered from the Vikings --Burleson and Rice too (who himself can be moody)--so it was nice to get something in return.
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Old 03-15-2013, 04:23 PM
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Player's averages according to pro-football-reference.com:

Boldin over 10 years:
14 games
77 catches
1016 yards
5.8 TDs


Percy Harvin over 4 years:
13.5 games
70 catches
825.5 yards
5 TDs


Bolding over his 1st 4 years:
14 games
85.5 catches
1151.25 yards
5 TDs
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Todd, I guess you would know better than most since you're a huge fan. I like the vikes and since I'm a big fantasy player, sometimes I get blinded by stats and not reality. There's no doubt boldin was one of the best in his prime, but I am more looking towards what could be and has a better chance of happening. I doubt that at the end if Percy's career we'll be able to say he was better than boldin, but I believe he's better now...and that was the topic...which will have the bigger impact.

The stats were cool that you brought up, but Percy broke two years ago, not in his first two years, so his stats will be skewed a bit. Also, you didn't include his rushing total or kickoff yardage...big difference if those are added.
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