T206 set for black pro teams 1909-11

[Runscott]

I initially thought this might be too much, but after identifying a possible base set of teams, and a few days of compiling rosters, line-ups, etc., I'm far enough along to where I think it will work.

New project: black t206 set. Initial plan:

• sheets of e-cards - you can physicalize them if you wish
• I will create black and white cards first, colorizing as time and practicality permits
• possibly with a sheet of backs that include bios
• 1909, 1910 and 1911 semi-pro teams
• Will include 'major' teams, perhaps even down to teams like the Buxton Wonders, as well as 'stars' who spent those three years with not-so-great teams. I already have a list with partial to full rosters for most. Some will get weeded out, others will get added.
• For teams where id'd images are scarce, sets will simply be small, with 'line-up' card listing players without individual cards
• 'All' line-ups will be re-validated from newspaper box scores. So far this is actually going well - I've found loads of errors in my reference books, so this part is critical.
• collect player images as found, probably mostly from hi-res scans of team photos
• ****I provide templates to interested volunteers who would like to 'adopt' a team****

I would welcome any suggestions or thoughts. If you would like to 'adopt' a team (hunt for box scores, first names, photos, etc.), please contact me.

[mattsey9]

I'd love to adopt a team, preferably one from Indiana or Chicago. Your timeline predates the ABC's by several years though. I'm definitely interested.

[Runscott]

The French Lick Plutos and the Indianapolis ABC's both existed in 1911 (the 1911 ABC's are on my list of teams to be included). I haven't looked at the rosters for either team, but I'm certain that each had some good players. Also, I've gotten fairly far with the 1910 and 1911 West Baden Sprudels, but I wouldn't mind handing them off.

I have all of the Kansas City and Chicago teams covered, but assistance would be appreciated - someone that I could run data past and who could help with choosing player images. I'm currently going through those rosters, ranking the players (great, 'above avg', 'steady', not-so-great).

Also, currently working on the 'Rube Foster' image. It's going to be cool, and in color.

[mattsey9]

I could do the Pluto's and the ABC's if you're willing. I'm pretty close to both towns so I could hit up the local libraries to see if there's anything cool there. I'm guessing that the Sprudels and Pluto's were affiliated with the resorts in French Lick/West Baden.

[baseballart]

Not sure where this image fits in, but I thought I'd post it anyway

[z28jd]

Sounds like a great idea Scott. Wish I could help, you know I love doing baseball research, but once the baseball season starts, I'll be writing about baseball 2-4 times a day, every single day for five months straight. So your timing(for my participation at least) is bad. It's definitely something I'd be interested in though.

[T206DK]

I've been doing some research on the Dayton Marco's.....not much out there on them though. they only existed for a year or two

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by mattsey9

I could do the Pluto's and the ABC's if you're willing. I'm pretty close to both towns so I could hit up the local libraries to see if there's anything cool there. I'm guessing that the Sprudels and Pluto's were affiliated with the resorts in French Lick/West Baden.

Mike, they are yours (thanks)
Send me an email and I will respond with all the information I currently have.

[Runscott]

[QUOTE=baseballart;1107804]Not sure where this image fits in, but I thought I'd post it anyway

Max - Thank you - that is a great image! I'm filing them in a 'player image' folder as I obtain them.

[mattsey9]

Originally Posted by Runscott

Mike, they are yours (thanks)
Send me an email and I will respond with all the information I currently have.

Email sent.

[Runscott]

............

This morning I removed my comments about Seamhead errors, thinking they might be in poor taste, and I went back to their website to do additional verifications of their rosters against some that I have.

I then checked their home page, and they state that data collected so far is for 1912 on. The 1909-11 data is definitely not complete, and a lot of it has apparently not been verified. For instance, if you are a Kansas City fan, you'll notice that the 1910-11 KC Royal data is basically not there in any usable form.

Since my project is for 1909-11, all data will definitely have to be verified against real box-scores and newspaper accounts. Any of you who are helping out are certainly more than welcome to go to Seamhead for ideas, but unless you have box-scores with first names, the players in the Seamhead team lists could be wrong (generally, correct last name but wrong first name - hence, incorrect player).

Thanks

[Runscott]

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