April 13, the day autographs stand still !!!!

Exhibitman · #1 03-27-2013, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon

Narcissists don't care what others think or how they feel. You aren't the only one that gets tired of it. I am just glad I don't collect autographs and have to put up with this. I have to be honest, I wouldn't. We might get to the point where I have almost never gotten, and that is to squelch it. No forum on this board should be completely taken over by one person and make it unbearable for everyone else. Just my opinion.

I agree and would add that we are at that point already. I know several autograph collectors who are members here and who simply ignore the forum because of the invective-laden threads and personal insults.

MooseDog · #2 03-27-2013, 03:09 PM

For what it's worth, there is a function built into the Forum software here that allows anyone to "hide" postings by any other member. This function is available on nearly every platform like this and is commonly referred to as a "Bozo Filter".

If you are logged in, to to "User CP" on the dark menu bar below the forums listings. Click there, and on the next screen about 1/2 way down the menu on the left is "Edit Ignore List". You can put the screen name of anyone you want to ignore (one at a time), click Save Changes", and you won't have to be tempted to read what you don't want to....

You'll still see when someone on your Ignore List has posted something, but there won't be any of the posting visible unless you want to un-ignore them.

Before and After.

Leon · #3 03-27-2013, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Exhibitman

I agree and would add that we are at that point already. I know several autograph collectors who are members here and who simply ignore the forum because of the invective-laden threads and personal insults.

But I can't believe he is the ONLY one causing any ruckus over here? I admit I don't read every post and thread on this side so maybe I don't know....And those that leave a place because of a bad apple or two usually have thinner skin than is needed in the first place. Almost every time someone tells me "it's either him or me".....I open the door so they can leave, and let them know they are welcome back at any time.

Big Dave · #4 03-27-2013, 04:10 PM

+1

travrosty · #5 03-27-2013, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Dave

+1

i agree, otherwise it is just approved, popular speech only. there are plenty of countries who have that requirement, countries i would prefer not to live.

shelly · #6 03-27-2013, 04:24 PM

This is not in defence of Travis. This is in defence of everyone on this site.

Definition of FORUM

1
a : the marketplace or public place of an ancient Roman city forming the center of judicial and public business
b : a public meeting place for open discussion
c : a medium (as a newspaper or online service) of open discussion or expression of ideas
2
: a judicial body or assembly : court
3
a : a public meeting or lecture involving audience discussion
b : a program (as on radio or television) involving discussion of a problem usually by several authorities

That is why this site is called a Forum.

Love it or do not read it up to you

toybulldog · #7 03-27-2013, 05:11 PM

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I'm in complete agreement with you. I don't care how experienced anyone is in anything. If they can't be around people who share their passion without alienating them, then who CAN they be around? Like I said I'm fed up and I'm not trying to insult anyone. I just can't believe that I can't enjoy an autograph forum amongst the most experienced collectors in the country because one guy can't help himself. It's beyond frustrating.

Problem solved, Moosedog in post #22 has come up with the perfect solution for you or anyone else who doesn't care for Travis' comments....

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For what it's worth, there is a function built into the Forum software here that allows anyone to "hide" postings by any other member. This function is available on nearly every platform like this and is commonly referred to as a "Bozo Filter".

If you are logged in, to to "User CP" on the dark menu bar below the forums listings. Click there, and on the next screen about 1/2 way down the menu on the left is "Edit Ignore List". You can put the screen name of anyone you want to ignore (one at a time), click Save Changes", and you won't have to be tempted to read what you don't want to....

You'll still see when someone on your Ignore List has posted something, but there won't be any of the posting visible unless you want to un-ignore them.

However something tells me that most or all will not use this function and continue to pressure Leon the moderator into giving him the heave-ho. "Travis is ruining it for everyone" seems like one big smokescreen to me with an ulterior motive. Personally I never get tired of reading about or exposing the TPA corruption in this hobby and could do so 24/7. Looking forward to more posts like this in the future

keithsky · #8 03-27-2013, 05:29 PM

I think the biggest problem with people complaining about PSA or JSA is that those companies need to come on here and answer some of the peoples questions or comments. They choose to remain silent on here and I think if they had someone from each comapny take questions or complaints I think people would be satified or at least somewhat. They choose to not respond to anybodys comments or come on here and it just fuels the fire. At least when people a few months ago complained about Hertitage Auction they at least had the balls to respond to peoples comments which to me was great. But JSA and PSA seem like they don't want to waste there time coming on here or there afraid to take the heat. It would ease all the blasting that Travis and others who can't stand these companies give to them and maybe shed some light on some of the TPA practices

Exhibitman · #9 03-27-2013, 06:10 PM

There is a difference between presenting arguments over specific facts--like the bad Marciano glove recently outed here--and simply attacking everything about TPAs regardless of whether there is any ascertainable issue with any specific item. If you listen to Travis [something I will not do any longer given the "ignore" function--thanks for the heads up on that one], everything a TPA ever does is wrong and everything they touch is tainted. That is simply not accurate or fair, and it is tedious, negative and unpleasant to read through. Hammer away at TPAs when they mess up and I'll be your biggest supporter, but to go after everything they say or do so indiscriminately reeks of a vendetta. It reminds me of a friend's mother who lived in occupied France as a teenage girl and who could never say or hear the word "German" without adding "bastards" and spitting on the ground.

I know nothing I am saying here is going to change things; I don't expect it to. I merely want to voice my view that these continual screeds against TPAs make this section of the board unpleasant to read. It is damaging to the community and it turns this section of the board into small echo chamber of narrow views. I know that every time I read one, I lose interest in the forum. That doesn't make me a person who is not interested in authenticity or in righting errors made by TPAs, BTW, just a person who prefers not to spend his leisure time in an indiscriminately negative, hostile environment.

OK, sharing time is over, back to bashing JSA, PSA and whoever else.

toybulldog · #10 03-27-2013, 05:55 PM

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If I went on the card side and posted day after about how annoyed I am that X card got X grade people would be telling me to give it a rest too. And they would be in the right to do so. Add in some personal attacks on the people behind the companies. It would never play over there. Why should it be different over here.

Then they should use the bozo filter on you, problem solved once again.

As far as attacks on the people behind the companies, the people behind the companies make their own attacks on other peoples autographs on a daily basis and do so with no evidence, proof or explanation while hiding behind their curtain. If someone chooses to attack back in the open in a forum with evidence, proof and explanation then that is something they can blame on themselves.

Seems like some of the boxing guys aren't one to fall into place and feed into all the bullsh*t like so many others. Tone it down or turn it up? I choose the latter.

cubsfan-budman · #11 03-27-2013, 06:06 PM

I really don't understand why Travis isn't one of the more respected guys on this board. He has a somewhat acidic tone, but in essence, he's correct in his indictments.

I mean, only a couple threads from here, MANY Net45'ers were jumping on a guy for leveraging the ABCs to attempt to sell a (mostly) outed fake.

I think two things are happening here:

1. People are turned off by Travis' tone and persistence
2. People actually enjoy his posts because they continue to not ignore him

packs · #12 03-27-2013, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by toybulldog

Then they should use the bozo filter on you, problem solved once again.

As far as attacks on the people behind the companies, the people behind the companies make their own attacks on other peoples autographs on a daily basis and do so with no evidence, proof or explanation while hiding behind their curtain. If someone chooses to attack back in the open in a forum with evidence, proof and explanation then that is something they can blame on themselves.

Seems like some of the boxing guys aren't one to fall into place and feed into all the bullsh*t like so many others. Tone it down or turn it up? I choose the latter.

I have nothing against what you're saying. But it seems like you are being contrarian about all this. Why can't the person acknowledge their behavior and at least attempt to make a change in it?

shelly · #13 03-27-2013, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Exhibitman

I agree and would add that we are at that point already. I know several autograph collectors who are members here and who simply ignore the forum because of the invective-laden threads and personal insults.

Then, it is there loss. Yes there are times when things get out of hand but just look how many more times people have helped others with there questions.
I find that is a very poor excuse for not comeing on here.

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