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Old 03-28-2013, 11:32 PM
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Old 03-28-2013, 11:52 PM
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Chris- whole new world, it seems...those SGC "A" Drums were selling for around $700 a few years ago...and PSA 1's for that much money? incredible. glad i got my PSA 2 Street several years back.

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Old 03-29-2013, 12:02 AM
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Old 03-29-2013, 12:08 AM
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Drums were too high for me days ago. Great cards though. Bigfish on the East Coast puts in his final bids on the way to work at 5:30 AM est. Probably the way to do it. I'm still in the running for some overlooked cards. Good luck to y'all.
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Drums were too high for me days ago. Great cards though. Bigfish on the East Coast puts in his final bids on the way to work at 5:30 AM est. Probably the way to do it. I'm still in the running for some overlooked cards. Good luck to y'all.
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You ain't lying, those drum prices are f*cking stupid.....I'm sorry but I would never lay down those prices for those particular cards......3 people are going to end up getting their asses worked over when the dust settles on these cards.....pure silliness all the way around.
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Old 03-29-2013, 07:02 AM
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I hate it when I fall asleep at 1:30 and wake to find someone outbid me at 1:50! Uggghhh!!
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+1 .....Drums "A" should be at $2000 tops now..... I t only takes a few with stupid money to crank up the market on the rarer backs....look at red hindus(lenox is inmho almost a tuf)!!another few whales are obviously hunting them down...These 2 backs(drum and red hindu) are very skewed inmho, like Hindu brown pricing is also...I think whomever won the BB laffy got a great price, I don't believe the writing on the back was a period printer note, but actually in this case kept the price low, the only known example southern leaguer bb, is a 4k + card...I sat out on all of them....

the krugs went about right for a tweener scrap...could've went a little higher



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Looks like i won the McGraw Lenox...considering how rare backs have gone thru the roof, i think this is a steal. a HOFer at a 'common' price. i'm very happy.

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Old 03-29-2013, 07:31 AM
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Hi,

Well, I finally did it. It only took me putting up a second and third mortgage on the house, scheduling an appointment to sell a kidney and a half next Monday, breaking open my childhood penny jar, heavy drinking, consulting an attorney regarding my upcoming divorce, and going to a casino with all my savings and betting on black several times in a row, but I did it with a minor $43000 or so. I now own three Drums. Wait, no, I forgot, my crazy bids of appx 5k on either an authentic or PSA 1 drum weren't even in the ball park. (I didn't bid on the Seymour for a board member).

What BS, first someone pays over 8500 for an authentic drum that looked like my kid found some scissors and thought it looked prettier with less edges, and then stuck the card to the bottom of his shoes with gum then ran around outside in the mud for several days. So now every drum is worth that or even a silly 24k? IMHO, People like this ruin an industry because it's probably only about money to them seeing as odds are these cards will hit the market again in another few years. Maybe I'm wrong and some diehards got them to keep forever, and good for them if so, but the prices are utterly stupid right now seeing as those authentics were worth maybe 1-2k on any day before these last two Goodwin auctions it makes it tough for collectors that don't have bottomless incomes to compete.

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Old 03-29-2013, 07:36 AM
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Shocking prices on t206...whats new! Some steals on potentially uber tough t216 "scraps"...minos...im happy to have won the blank backed t216 crawford.
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I got the Trimmed 33 Ruth. Honestly, I did a cursory market search and figured out my top. It's not a deal, but, it's not terribly over either. I'm happy.
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Shocking prices on t206...whats new! Some steals on potentially uber tough t216 "scraps"...minos...im happy to have won the blank backed t216 crawford.
Those were great cards. I would say 'steals', but as far as prices go, the 'scrap' quality doesn't mean much unless it's attached to a T206.

As far as Drum prices, I agree that they are surprising; however, you see how collectors talk up backs on this board, and we have a few T206 collectors who understand back rarity AND have the means to easily pay these prices.

I'll keep collecting the fronts of the cards...where the beautiful lithographs actually are.
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The Drum prices are crazy...which means it might be time to sell mine! How much longer could that market actually stay that high? I'm guessing someone is going for a set and the 1 of 1 sold them on paying top dollar. While I don't have a Seymour, I do have an ungraded(but it will grade) of another card listed as a 1 in the pop report. Which means chances are someone(or multiple people) has/have an ungraded Seymour/Drum out there too.

Edited to add: All but one card in the psa Drum report, is either population 1 or 2. The oh so common Griffith batting has four examples. So basically the pop report is going to be extremely low for any of these cards. Not that it shouldn't have been obvious already. Not only are Drum backs rare, they are spread over some many different subjects and some are graded by SGC, while others aren't graded. So finding a specific PSA example is always going to be nearly impossible
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Shocking prices on t206...whats new! Some steals on potentially uber tough t216 "scraps"...minos...im happy to have won the blank backed t216 crawford.
Hey Pete,

Great get - love Crawford cards!

I got the Kotton Matty (not blank backed) that I believe was part of Dave Levin's find a couple years ago of T216s and other LA-based cards.

Don't think I got a "steal", but I'm really happy with the card for the price! I'm 99.9% sure I bought it for a lot less than Dave wanted for it back when he had it for sale...

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Blair - so that was you who outbid me at 1:50am in the morning!

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Great get - love Crawford cards!

I got the Kotton Matty (not blank backed) that I believe was part of Dave Levin's find a couple years ago of T216s and other LA-based cards.

Don't think I got a "steal", but I'm really happy with the card for the price! I'm 99.9% sure I bought it for a lot less than Dave wanted for it back when he had it for sale...

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Well, I finally did it. It only took me putting up a second and third mortgage on the house, scheduling an appointment to sell a kidney and a half next Monday, breaking open my childhood penny jar, heavy drinking, consulting an attorney regarding my upcoming divorce, and going to a casino with all my savings and betting on black several times in a row, but I did it with a minor $43000 or so. I now own three Drums. Wait, no, I forgot, my crazy bids of appx 5k on either an authentic or PSA 1 drum weren't even in the ball park. (I didn't bid on the Seymour for a board member).

What BS, first someone pays over 8500 for an authentic drum that looked like my kid found some scissors and thought it looked prettier with less edges, and then stuck the card to the bottom of his shoes with gum then ran around outside in the mud for several days. So now every drum is worth that or even a silly 24k? IMHO, People like this ruin an industry because it's probably only about money to them seeing as odds are these cards will hit the market again in another few years. Maybe I'm wrong and some diehards got them to keep forever, and good for them if so, but the prices are utterly stupid right now seeing as those authentics were worth maybe 1-2k on any day before these last two Goodwin auctions it makes it tough for collectors that don't have bottomless incomes to compete.

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As the old saying goes.....some people just have more money than brains....and in this case....it's very much true. Whoever won these cards better put them in a collection where they'll remain for a very, VERY long time as they're gonna be hard pressed to find another dumb f*ck like themselves to fork over that much money for those particular cards again. Happens all the time, morons who WAY overpay, decide they don't want it anymore, then hope to find another moron who will do the same, lol.......9 times out of 10, they end up taking the huge loss on resale. Always gives me a chuckle every time
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I get frustrated for sure because I feel I'm overpaying with my bids and yet it's not even half the selling price. I'm also trying desperately to add any drum to my collection for the love of the company, not the potential of some sort of investment. It's too bad, but yeah, eventually the stupidity will wear off and these cards will find the normal market value again.
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Well I didnt win the seymour drum.... Im fine with passing on a card that is worth $5K.. and sells for $25K....maybe the winner thought it was a Ty drum back..... when he wakes up and realizes it was a Cy drum back hes gonna be pissed

I obviously watched the auction very closely... i am very confident that the same person won all 3 drums...

Throughout the entire auction it looked like in fact two guys wanted all 3. all 3 would get a bid at the same time.. then all 3 would get a bid again... I wanted the seymour drum... but for $24,000 ???? isnt that around T206 SGC10 Plank pricing?? I think ill take the Plank lol.
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