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Old 04-02-2013, 05:26 PM
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Old 04-02-2013, 05:29 PM
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The truth is, I was hoping that Huggins & Scott would have pulled their listing by now.

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Can we lock the thread before Travis sees it....
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Old 04-02-2013, 05:43 PM
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Old 04-02-2013, 05:45 PM
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Sorry to disappoint you guys, but the unfolding is over.

I just hope that Huggins & Scott does the right thing.
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Old 04-02-2013, 05:50 PM
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Do you really think they're gonna pull a JSA-certed Ruth, Chris?
I got ten bucks that sez they won't.

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Old 04-02-2013, 07:12 PM
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Yeah, no way Huggins and Scott pulls that down. JSA has given their opinion, so someone is going to pay big bucks for it. H&S wants their cut and they will get it.

And the person who pays based on JSA's opinion only will get what they pay for.
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Old 04-02-2013, 07:42 PM
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I disagree. Huggins & Scott will do the right thing. They are stand up guys. Or they will come on and say why they disagree - which is their right.
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Old 04-02-2013, 08:04 PM
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I disagree. Huggins & Scott will do the right thing. They are stand up guys. Or they will come on and say why they disagree - which is their right.
I think that Huggins and Scott is as quality an auction house as there is. But JSA is who they use and they have given an opinion, one that will be profitable for the house. What reason do they have to believe a message board? Maybe they will listen to the more respected people here, but I would be surprised.
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Do you really think they're gonna pull a JSA-certed Ruth, Chris?
I got ten bucks that sez they won't.
Well, we can only hope.

I am very disappointed with JSA.
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only now he gets disappointed with jsa?

i found that boat about 4 years ago.
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Travis, it's all personal opinion. Someone will endorse something that most others are certain is a forgery, and support the TPA that authenticated it, but then when they disagree with the TPA, they are disappointed.

We all follow that model.

What I don't understand is people being disappointed in an auction house for not pulling a TPA-endorsed forgery. Once the house has decided to use a particular TPA, that TPA is their expert. You either support the TPA's decisions, or you stop using the TPA. Telling a supposed 'expert' that they are wrong, by pulling an item from your auction, isn't going to happen - it would be a bad precedent.
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only now he gets disappointed with jsa?

i found that boat about 4 years ago.
This may be hard for you to believe, but it is possible for some people to be disappointed in a decision someone else makes without completely condemning them, calling them incompetant at every turn, ranting like a lunatic ad nauseum, conjuring countless inane analogies, turning every thread into a hate-filled diatribe, etc. etc.

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This may be hard for you to believe, but it is possible for some people to be disappointed in a decision someone else makes without completely condemning them, calling them incompetant at every turn, ranting like a lunatic ad nauseum, conjuring countless inane analogies, turning every thread into a hate-filled diatribe, etc. etc.

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Don't you think it is time just to make belive he is not there.
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Old 04-04-2013, 05:25 PM
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Don't you think it is time just to make belive he is not there.
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Old 04-04-2013, 03:19 PM
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This may be hard for you to believe, but it is possible for some people to be disappointed in a decision someone else makes without completely condemning them, calling them incompetant at every turn, ranting like a lunatic ad nauseum, conjuring countless inane analogies, turning every thread into a hate-filled diatribe, etc. etc.

Just sayin'
I completely get that all of these TPA's are fallible...even the big 2.

But what I don't understand as of yet (since I'm fairly new to the industry), is the poor quality of some of the forgeries that are being certed (particularly the high end autos). Some of these are so bad, that the company that issued the cert is the only one claiming them be authentic.

Is it the fact that so many Ruth's/Gehrig's/Cobb's are submitted to the big 2, that some very bad versions slip through the cracks? If that's the case, I would argue that I deserve much better service for my $200 authentication fee. I've submitted Ruth auto's at national events, and on average, I have an answer within 30 minutes....which would equate to $400 per hour. At that rate, bad versions shouldn't slip through (but I do understand a well executed forgery occasionally getting through).

And don't get me wrong, I have no problem with paying the fee...because as a little guy, I need the cert and can recoup that fee in the sale price.

Then again, maybe I'm completely off base, and the big 2 have exemplars of atypical Ruth's/Gehrig's/Cobb's that no one else is privy to.
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The big two don't have anything that "no one else is privy to."
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This may be hard for you to believe, but it is possible for some people to be disappointed in a decision someone else makes without completely condemning them, calling them incompetant at every turn, ranting like a lunatic ad nauseum, conjuring countless inane analogies, turning every thread into a hate-filled diatribe, etc. etc.

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then again, maybe he is seeing the light.
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