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[Matthew H]

Originally Posted by HRBAKER

Well I guess it's a matter of how you prefer to be defrauded.
I guess maybe in terms of sheer magnitude and total monetary effect.

+1

Card doctoring mostly affects the geniuses collecting mint tobacco cards (post war too)

As far as Bill, at least he didn't rat on his friends, I respect him for that.

[conor912]

Originally Posted by Matthew H

+1

Card doctoring mostly affects the geniuses collecting mint tobacco cards (post war too).

Which is why I only collect up to EX in pre-war. I refuse to believe that a little piece of cardboard can survive 70 plus years and not get a few dings on it.

[botn]

Card doctoring is not just done on high grade, fellas. It is done on any card which offers itself to being improved. From Good to Ex can be a nice pay day on Cobb, Ruth or 35 T206 commons. This is not just the deep pocket collectors who are impacted. I collect mainly lower to mid grade and I come across lots of altered cards. I pass on far more purchases than I should have to.

[conor912]

Originally Posted by botn

Card doctoring is not just done on high grade, fellas. It is done on any card which offers itself to being improved. From Good to Ex can be a nice pay day on Cobb, Ruth or 35 T206 commons. This is not just the deep pocket collectors who are impacted. I collect mainly lower to mid grade and I come across lots of altered cards. I pass on far more purchases than I should have to.

I 100% agree, but if there's a segment (i.e. high grade pre-war) that I can all-together ignore, then all the better.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Matthew H

+1

Card doctoring mostly affects the geniuses collecting mint tobacco cards (post war too)

As far as Bill, at least he didn't rat on his friends, I respect him for that.

I like this post.

I also like the one you were responding to, regarding "how you prefer to be defrauded." I prefer extravagant shipping costs, but having your pet shill me up to my ceiling bid is also fairly pain-free. You are also free to trim the edges off of a card, but please slip and cut off the end of your finger while doing so.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by Matthew H

+1

As far as Bill, at least he didn't rat on his friends, I respect him for that.

He desperately tried to "rat" on his friends from the first day. His lawyer indicated on day 1 that Bill was cooperating against his "friends." Ever think that the government couldn't use him because he was simply unable to tell the truth?

[E93]

Originally Posted by Matthew H

Card doctoring mostly affects the geniuses collecting mint tobacco cards (post war too)

Are you being serious? That is simply not true. If there is money to be made by ironing out a crease and turning a card from gd to ex, you better believe the doctors are doing it.
JimB

[E93]

Just saw that Greg said almost exactly the same thing in post #28.
JimB

[Runscott]

Sharpen a card and you not only make a mint, but you create a supposedly NM card that is physically less of a card than it was when it came out of the tobacco pack. No, I don't want anyone adding color to a fr-gd card and turning it into a g-vg, but if somehow one slips by me, I'm not out near as much money as I would be if I unholdered a trimmed high-grade card.

I'm not for altering a card in any way, but there is a huge difference between ironing out a crease and trimming the edges. And while the grading companies quite frequently miss trimmings (non-maliciously in many instances), it would be ridiculous for them to miss re-coloring, gluing down paper, or adding paper to a card. I know they've done it, but it's inexcusable.

[Matthew H]

Originally Posted by E93

Are you being serious? That is simply not true. If there is money to be made by ironing out a crease and turning a card from gd to ex, you better believe the doctors are doing it.
JimB

Jim, I personally don't use the same grading scale as tpg, I don't see a big difference between an excellent card with one flaw and a straight excellent card. I place no value in technical condition. It's all eye appeal for me, I even think some wear is kinda pretty. A very small percentage of what I have is in "excellent" condition. I'm pretty confident that I can tell, on the issues that I collect, whether or not a card is altered. With that being said, I wasn't really being serious, I was joking around, card doctoring is a serious issue.