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Old 04-05-2013, 09:24 PM
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I'm not sure I fully understand your comment. What makes you think the consignor has 1000 lots out there? -- this might be his/her only one (but probably 36 - see below). I'm not suggesting the consignee is doing anything other than turning a blind eye (as others have here and in other venues). This is simply the item that I stumbled on (as a Clemente collector) that is a perfect example of this becoming-all-too-common activity. I'm not certain of anything ... but those certainly do not look like bona fide bids. A 0-Feedback bidder who decides to make 85 bids on 36 unique items offered by the same consignee over a short period of time?
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Old 04-05-2013, 10:22 PM
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A 0-Feedback bidder who decides to make 85 bids on 36 unique items offered by the same consignee over a short period of time?
..and a card that typically sells for $10 all of the sudden sells for $26??
I guess I just don't understand how people can bypass numerous cheaper BINs just to bid something to a stupid high level. And if these items ARE INDEED being shilled, isn't there some fear of the consignor actually being stuck with the item and a huge bill? Does a consignor actually want to pay $5,000 for a card that might only bring $2,500 every single other time it goes up for sale??
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Old 04-05-2013, 10:29 PM
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PS - you forget this card. Went for double the average selling price. A new record high. I can see if the card was severly undergraded, maybe a '5' in a '3' holder. But this card is HIDEOUS. The centering is horrible on it. To be the record setting '3' that sold for DOUBLE Vcp average (VCP avg=$17. This card sold for $35)....I just don't see it...


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Old 04-05-2013, 11:16 PM
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I agree with you Robert. Anyone could find a nicer Clemente for the same amount paid for that 3. That Clemente is rough.
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Old 04-06-2013, 06:29 AM
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That Clemente SHOULD NOT be the record setter!! You can get better looking cards TWO grades higher for less money!

On a side note, let me share my experiences buying and selling with PWCC. He is great! Never a problem. Now my consignments - some have been great, most have been average, some have set record lows. I have NEVER sold a card for double VCP average. Never had a head scratcher. Here is one of the creams of my last consignment.

Bobby Jones PSA 5. It looked like a 7/8. Obviously the best card in that grade. It sold for $787. All Star Cards paying $750 for that particular card in that particular grade. Ended up losing a couple hondo on it. I could have saved myself a hefty consignment fee just by selling the card to them. If ANY card should have been a record breaker, it should have been that one - not a fugly Clemente PSA 3.



I don't get the surge on some of the cards. As a collector myself, I don't look at PWCC auctions anymore, as I feel there are no deals to be had there anymore. Apparently I am in a minority though, as he is obviously setting record prices. Are they real prices or is this MastoNet all over again? I don't know. Alot of people are taking notice, as there are MULTIPLE threads on the subject matter this very day.
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Old 04-06-2013, 07:21 AM
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I just got a holmes on holmes sgc10 chance for $130 from pwcc. I thoght that was a very good deal and pwcc was very quick on shipping. I think he has a lot of high enders following him and thus he gets pretty high prices on the high end stuff.
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A $17 card sells for $35? I weep for our future.
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Old 04-06-2013, 08:03 AM
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VCP 475, recent sales in the low 400s. PWC 991. Must be that great service!
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