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04-06-2013, 06:02 PM
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JimStinson
Setting the record straight is what started this thread ...
 So in a way we are doing it...This is from SMITHSONIAN.COM and pretty much explains what happened after Cobb passed away......Stump’s True magazine article won the Associated Press award for the best sports story of 1962 and went a long way in cementing the public’s memory of the baseball great. “From all of baseball, three men and three only appeared for his funeral,” Stump wrote at the end of his story, as if Cobb died a despised man who had alienated opponents and teammates alike. But the Sporting News reported that Cobb’s family had told friends and baseball officials that they wanted his funeral (held just 48 hours after he died) to be private and requested that they not attend, despite offers from several baseball greats to serve as pallbearers. Most of Cobb’s closest baseball friends were, in fact, already dead by 1961. Doctors, nurses and hospital staff who attended to Cobb in his final months later came forward to say they never observed any of the rude or abusive behavior attributed to Cobb in Stump’s article. And a friendship-ending argument Stump described in a dramatic scene between Cobb and Ted Williams never happened, according to Williams. “He’s full of it,” he said of Stump. In addition, it should be noted that Cobb’s views on race evolved after he retired from baseball. In 1952, when many whites from the Deep South were still opposed to blacks mixing with whites both in and out of baseball, Cobb was not one of them. “Certainly it is O.K. for them to play,” Cobb told a reporter. “I see no reason in the world why we shouldn’t compete with colored athletes as long as they conduct themselves with politeness and gentility. Let me say also that no white man has the right to be less of a gentleman than a colored man, in my book that goes not only for baseball but in all walks of life.” In his last year of life, Cobb may have shown a cantankerous side, but it seemed reserved for the state of baseball, which he saw as over-reliant on the home run and lacking in players of all-around skill. Willie “Mays is the only man in baseball I’d pay to see play,” he said not long before he died ___________________ jim@stinsonsports.com 
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04-06-2013, 08:08 PM
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Ahh, that makes sense then...
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04-06-2013, 08:33 PM
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There's always two sides to every story, of course, but it wasn't just Crawford in the "The Glory of Their Times" with a string of uncomplimentary things to say about Cobb, but also Davey Jones, who has some extremely unflattering stories to tell. In researching my book, I came across a number of contemporary accounts of Cobb's temper and fistfights he got into with players, umpires, and civilians. On the other hand, Walter Johnson didn't have anything bad to say about Cobb, and thought he was "misunderstood." My mother found Cobb to be the perfect Southern Gentlemen. Anybody read Alexander's biography recently enough to be able to weigh in on how that treat's Cobb as a person?
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04-06-2013, 09:52 PM
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"On August 2, 1907, I encountered the most threatening sight I ever saw on the ballfield. He was only a rookie, and we licked our lips as we warmed up for the first game of a doubleheader in Washington. Evidently the manager of the Senators had picked a rube out of the cornfields of the deepest bushes to pitch against us.....He was a tall, shambling galoot of about 20 with arms so long they hung out of his sleeves and with a sidearm delivery that looked unimpressive at first glance.....One of us imitated a cow mooing and we hollered at the manager: 'get your pitchfork ready, your hayseed's on his way back to the barn'......The first time I faced him I watched him take that easy windup and then something went past me that made me flinch. The thing just hissed with danger. We couldn't touch him....every one of us knew we'd met the most powerful arm ever turned loose in a ball park." Ty Cobb on Walter Johnson
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04-07-2013, 01:02 AM
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Wow. Talk about distortion by Stumpf. Thanks Jim, a great read!!
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04-07-2013, 06:22 AM
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As I recall, Jimmy Austin wasn't too complimentary about Cobb either in GOTT.
The story I like about Cobb is that when DiMaggio's contract was purchased by New York, Cobb advised the kid to hold out for more money and ghosted his letters in response to the contracts Ed Barrow kept sending until Barrow sent a final contract with a note to tell Cobb to stop writing him letters.
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04-16-2013, 12:45 PM
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