Babe Ruth?

David Atkatz · #1 04-10-2013, 05:40 PM

He's out doin' his legwork.

cardinalcollector · #2 04-10-2013, 06:11 PM

You know, personally I am glad to see an AH come on here to defend themselves. Most of the times they don't, they probably think they have nothing to gain, and are probably right about that. Whatever they respond with, they usually get hit with more questions, technicalities, and complaints from a transaction gone bad with an individual 10 years ago.

Kit Young came on here to clarify some question years ago and was torched by a guy who had a bad transaction with him 20 years ago! Haven't heard from him since.

Troy from SACO was pounded mercilessly by folks when auctioning his CDV recently. He went WAY above and beyond in my opinion to answer questions, and for some, it just wasn't good enough.

I have never dealt with H&S, but everything I've heard about them has been positive.

It seems that emotions run so high that common sense and civility go out the window.

Now if the AH is screwing people and you can prove it (Mastro) go get 'em, just be able to prove it. I think a lot more AHs would post here if they didn't fear exactly what is happening to H&S here.

Runscott · #3 04-10-2013, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by cardinalcollector

Troy from SACO was pounded mercilessly by folks when auctioning his CDV recently. He went WAY above and beyond in my opinion to answer questions, and for some, it just wasn't good enough.

I applaud Troy for coming here and talking, but "it just wasn't good enough" ?!?

Troy did things his way, answered the questions he wanted to, and tried to play the victim when he was asked legitimate questions that exposed his lack of knowledge.

You might not realize this, but there were at least six board members participating in that SACO thread that each possessed at least ten times the knowledge of Troy regarding the mounted albumen photographs that he was trying to sell. Thus the questions that pained so many of you.

Runscott · #4 04-10-2013, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by cardinalcollector

You know, personally I am glad to see an AH come on here to defend themselves. Most of the times they don't, they probably think they have nothing to gain, and are probably right about that. Whatever they respond with, they usually get hit with more questions, technicalities, and complaints from a transaction gone bad with an individual 10 years ago.

........

I have never dealt with H&S, but everything I've heard about them has been positive.

It seems that emotions run so high that common sense and civility go out the window.

Now if the AH is screwing people and you can prove it (Mastro) go get 'em, just be able to prove it. I think a lot more AHs would post here if they didn't fear exactly what is happening to H&S here.

I agree with everything else you stated - well done, and I hope you understand that I wasn't attacking you for your opinion regarding SACO. Mounted albumens are something that I have expertise in. Many of the people reading that thread have little or no expertise in that area, and as a result, couldn't understand why we asked the questions we did. I completely get their attitude.

Big Dave · #5 04-10-2013, 11:14 PM

Ends today....

http://hugginsandscott.com/cgi-bin/s...l?itemid=55190

yanks12025 · #6 04-10-2013, 06:42 PM

I just want to add one small thing about the seller has owned it for 20 years. It may seem like a long time ago but considering fakes have been around for many years, 20 years really isn't far.

Weren't most of the operation bullpen and other stuff in the early 90's. I have no idea whether its real or fake, just saying 20 years aint long.

David Atkatz · #7 04-10-2013, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by yanks12025

I just want to add one small thing about the seller has owned it for 20 years. It may seem like a long time ago but considering fakes have been around for many years, 20 years really isn't far.

Weren't most of the operation bullpen and other stuff in the early 90's. I have no idea whether its real or fake, just saying 20 years aint long.

Twenty years is a long time, Brock, if the "Missouri forger," the alleged signer of this piece, wasn't working then. Do you know if he was?

I thought not.

Here's a tip: If you're going to open an item up to doubt, have some solid info to present. Don't take a leaf from Chris' book.

yanks12025 · #8 04-10-2013, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by David Atkatz

Twenty years is a long time, Brock, if the "Missouri forger," the alleged signer of this piece, wasn't working then. Do you know if he was?

I thought not.

Here's a tip: If you're going to open an item up to doubt, have some solid info to present. Don't take a leaf from Chris' book.

Heres a tip for you, actually read what i write considering I never said anything about the forger and how long he's been around. I simply stated when talking about a item being 70+ years old and only owning it for 20 years ain't much. So if I buy a item, I could tell people it has great provenience because I've owned it for X amount of years.

And like I posted I said I don't know whether its real or fake.

David Atkatz · #9 04-10-2013, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by yanks12025

Heres a tip for you, actually read what i write considering I never said anything about the forger and how long he's been around.

Yeah. That's the whole point.

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