Commy Comiskey 1887 Old Judge PSA 2 (MK)

[itjclarke]

Originally Posted by Zone91

AMBST95.. I mean the whole world knows about Mickey Mantle: 536 home runs and Babe Ruth: 714 home runs....but not Tris Speaker.

It's a shame that Tris Speaker relatively gets the shaft as compared to Matty/Cobb/Wags/Young/etc.. he was one of the first HOF class (with Wajo, Matty, Cy young, Cobb, etc) and even though primarily a dead ball player, his stats hold up incredibly.. especially doubles and triples totals. Also, I know it was a different game and centerfielders could play much shallower, but just check out his OF assists as compared with assist numbers today. The guy was a flat out stud.

[terjung]

Originally Posted by itjclarke

It's a shame that Tris Speaker relatively gets the shaft as compared to Matty/Cobb/Wags/Young/etc.. he was one of the first HOF class (with Wajo, Matty, Cy young, Cobb, etc) and even though primarily a dead ball player, his stats hold up incredibly.. especially doubles and triples totals. Also, I know it was a different game and centerfielders could play much shallower, but just check out his OF assists as compared with assist numbers today. The guy was a flat out stud.

No argument that Speaker was a stud.

For the sake of clarity though, he wasn't in the first HOF class and neither was Cy Young, for that matter.

They both made the 2nd class though.

1936 Class: Cobb, W. Johnson, Matty, Ruth, Wagner
1937 Class: Bulkeley, B. Johnson, Lajoie, Mack, McGraw, Speaker, Wright, Young

[itjclarke]

Originally Posted by terjung

No argument that Speaker was a stud.

For the sake of clarity though, he wasn't in the first HOF class and neither was Cy Young, for that matter.

They both made the 2nd class though.

1936 Class: Cobb, W. Johnson, Matty, Ruth, Wagner
1937 Class: Bulkeley, B. Johnson, Lajoie, Mack, McGraw, Speaker, Wright, Young

Oops, my bad... From memory I'd thought Wajo, Wagner, Cobb, Ruth, Matty, Speaker, Collins, Cobb, Sisler, Mack, McGraw, Young were in that first class... I think because they all took a group shot together in Cooperstown. Now that I think about it, I think that may have been a centennial HOF shot they took in 1939?

PS- I'm old school in that I always took pride in remembering stuff/stats I'd read in my first total baseball encyclopedia, and still feel disappointed when I have to google. In my world, Ty Cobb still batted .367, Billy Hamilton stole 937 bases, and Hack Wilson drove in 190 runs in 1930