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Old 04-12-2013, 11:26 PM
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Many collectors collect trimmed "A" cards because they can buy a card that looks like an 8 for way cheaper than what an actual 8 would cost.

How many collectors would buy a trimmed card graded an 8, knowing for a fact it was trimmed (so technically it's an "A") for 8 money?

If the owner doesn't care, and is just going to keep it, no problem there. I just don't see it retaining the price paid just because of the story behind it. Beautiful card, no doubt. But Mastro said he trimmed it. It's no longer a mystery.

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Old 04-12-2013, 11:47 PM
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Late breaking news:

Mastro's wife has now admitted she trimmed her wagner a couple of times, too.
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Many collectors collect trimmed "A" cards because they can buy a card that looks like an 8 for way cheaper than what an actual 8 would cost.

How many collectors would buy a trimmed card graded an 8, knowing for a fact it was trimmed (so technically it's an "A") for 8 money?

If the owner doesn't care, and is just going to keep it, no problem there. I just don't see it retaining the price paid just because of the story behind it. Beautiful card, no doubt. But Mastro said he trimmed it. It's no longer a mystery.

Just my opinion-

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Clayton,

Several years ago, my answer would have been none or next to none, but since then I've learned - particularly the ones of the PSA registry ilk: "the label lovers", my answer is a significant number of people. There are people who are well aware that they bought a significant number of doctored cards and they too seem unphased about it. I know it's twisted beyond any rational comprehension, but these people do exist and they impact the market significantly.
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Every prior purchaser sold it at a hefty profit. No damages, no claim. They benefited from the fraud on the back end.
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I don't think we'll know if Kendrick cares about the card being trimmed for sure until after he sells. Think about it, if you were him would you say anything negative like the card is now garbage or should be re-slabbed as an "A"? Certainly his offering an opinion like that could negatively impact it's value when his time to sell arrives. If I was him I'd say the same things he's now saying - because I would not want to loose my ass on my $2.8 million investment. My guess is he's not sleeping very soundly when it comes to thoughts of selling the card. It may or may not sell for more, but IMO this information certainly increases the chance that it will sell for less. Kind of rambling here but my point is: Kendricks opinion about how this information will not have negative impact on the card is certainly not an unbiased reflection on how the hobby will respond in the next sale so those who are using his opinion as a barometer of the hobbies pulse are slightly misguided.

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Clayton,

Several years ago, my answer would have been none or next to none, but since then I've learned - particularly the ones of the PSA registry ilk: "the label lovers", my answer is a significant number of people. There are people who are well aware that they bought a significant number of doctored cards and they too seem unphased about it. I know it's twisted beyond any rational comprehension, but these people do exist and they impact the market significantly.
I guess this would only make any kind of sense to people in competition with each other. It would be hard for me to look at a high grade card in my collection and know it's really a trimmed card that I extremely overpaid for. I don't think there is a right or wrong way to collect cards, but I do think it's wrong if a TPG is giving cards extremely high grades knowing they are trimmed- like the 8 Wagner.

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