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Old 04-17-2013, 03:13 PM
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What card are you referring to with the water mark? I have the Mantle in my hand and all looks good there is a mark on the Mike Mitchell error card from the E90-1 Caramel set.
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What card are you referring to with the water mark? I have the Mantle in my hand and all looks good there is a mark on the Mike Mitchell error card from the E90-1 Caramel set.
He meant that he auction picture had a watermark (A mark to prevent people from stealing the picture), not te card itself.

I would love to see your collection. Do you have a camera phone by chance?

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Ah OK was wondering.

No sorry no camera I will have to borrow one from my brother I was never the camera type of guy.
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What card are you referring to with the water mark? I have the Mantle in my hand and all looks good there is a mark on the Mike Mitchell error card from the E90-1 Caramel set.
Why are you saying you have the Mantle in hand when you haven't paid for it yet? Is it a different card than the PSA 4, 1952 in the link?

Did I miss something?
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Old 04-17-2013, 03:29 PM
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Then you now know I was indeed the wining bidder on the 1887 Old Judge and 52 Topps Mantle.

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Then you now know I was indeed the wining bidder on the 1887 Old Judge and 52 Topps Mantle.
Yeap and got an invitation to come stay with him for a few days for a vacation too. It's a small hobby,. Gotta run to chat with folks much less fortunate than most of us. Back later......
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Old 04-17-2013, 03:32 PM
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Thanks for confirming that I do indeed own these 4 cards appreciate it.
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Old 04-17-2013, 03:34 PM
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I only pay what I think is right for a card based on the look of the card no the holder...I wiser than that learned from been a sucker in the card trade before cards where graded by companies.
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Man I wish I had something Adrian was looking for! Price doesn't seem to be much of a factor.
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Then you now know I was indeed the wining bidder on the 1887 Old Judge and 52 Topps Mantle.
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Why are you saying you have the Mantle in hand when you haven't paid for it yet? Is it a different card than the PSA 4, 1952 in the link?

Did I miss something?
I think that is why Leon knows it wasn't paid for yet and knows that you can't have the card yet as you claimed. (Purely speculation by the posts)
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Speak to Leon in private he will explain the whole picture of my tactics to you.

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Isn't this the same Mantle you posted a link to on the prewar side? I could swear you stated on that thread that you did not end up purchasing the card...
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Did not want people to know until I had received it threw the mail. To prevent others from trying to get the card outside of Ebay threw the seller...this has happened in the past to me a few times....I know how to protect myself from this now.
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Was keeping it on the down low as they say!!!
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Speak to Leon in private he will explain the whole picture of my tactics to you.
I assume it is the same picture painted above. You lie because you are paranoid of people wanting to swoop in on your purchases.
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Pretty much had a few bad experiences with coin dealers in the past. And that really sucked BIG time!!! Trying to stay away and prevent it from happening again. I do not know much about the dealers I purchased from so I decided to protect myself. I personally think that is understandable....and then again maybe you do not....but I do!!!

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Old 04-17-2013, 03:22 PM
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What card are you referring to with the water mark? I have the Mantle in my hand and all looks good there is a mark on the Mike Mitchell error card from the E90-1 Caramel set.
As Bestdj777 indicated, the (artifical) watermark is on the image only, and not on the card itself.



Edited to add: Should go without saying; however, not my card.

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What card are you referring to with the water mark? I have the Mantle in my hand and all looks good there is a mark on the Mike Mitchell error card from the E90-1 Caramel set.
Might just be me, but I think Eric and some others have doubts on whether you really won these cards, which is why they want to see pictures.
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Might just be me, but I think Eric and some others have doubts on whether you really won these cards, which is why they want to see pictures.
Oh, he won at least 2 of them. I can assure you of that.
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Old 04-17-2013, 03:26 PM
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Guys I did win all 4 Leon or someone can contact Tonyetrade and ask and you will be told I did purchase the Mantle and the PSA 5 Old Judge card if the seller is allowed to say that or not I do not know the privacy laws.

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Guys I did win all 4 Leon or someone can contact Tonyetrade and ask and you will be told I did purchase the Mantle and the PSA 5 Old Judge card.
Already did.
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Guys I did win all 4
Well, I will certainly admit that I was mistaken. And I do apologize.

Congratulations on your excellent acquisitions.

Sincerely,

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Well, I will certainly admit that I was mistaken. And I do apologize.

Congratulations on your excellent acquisitions.

Sincerely,

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Recanted...it turns out I wasn't mistaken, after all.
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...there is a mark on the Mike Mitchell error card from the E90-1 Caramel set.
What is the error on the Mike Mitchell card?
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Old 04-17-2013, 03:55 PM
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Is it not a team variation error card that is what I believed? I purchased the card because I knew it was rare and I collect rarer cards I supposed it was a card like the T206 Ray Demmitt and Bill O'Hara I must be wrong.
To be honest I never even heard of this card before a few weeks ago.

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It is a variation card like the T206 Demmitt card and the Bill O'Hara card....the card has a stain on the top right corner on the front of the card.
What is the variation? Can you post a link or a picture of the other variation?
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Is it not a team variation error card that is what I believed? I purchased the card because I knew it was rare and I collect rarer cards I supposed it was a card like the T206 Ray Demmitt and Bill O'Hara I must be wrong.
To be honest I never even heard of this card before a few weeks ago.
Is there a race I'm not aware of? You're ripping through cash!
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2500$ was a bad buy in your opinion? No no race just a few rarer cards I wanted to add to my set. I know it is considered the Honus Wagner of Caramel cards but do not know why?? Can you explain? I figured they must not come up for sale often so why not buy it.

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Not that I can't afford one just never was one to take pictures I have like 5 pictures of myself in the last 10 years and 2 where for passports once every time they expired. I have no kids or wife so a camera was not in my things to buy.

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2500$ was a bad buy in your opinion? No no race just a few rarer cards I wanted to add to my set. I know it is considered the Honus Wagner of Caramel cards but do not know why?? Can you explain? I figured they must not come up for sale often so why not buy it.
I think Mark and others (including myself) are somewhat concerned about the prices that you are paying. Some of the sellers you are buying from including bmw have some of the most overpriced BINs on ebay. There are many collectors in the hobby who enthusiastically purchase cards at high prices when they first enter the hobby, but later become discouraged and unhappy when they are later unable to re-sell the cards for their purchase price when they need to unload them. The fear is that you are walking down the same path, which we hope doesn't happen.

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Please tell what cards I overpaid for (My guess is all of them)...cards are selling for a lot more than say a few years ago especially the old stuff in nice condition. I could have found a Mantle say for 10k and not 13k but the centering would have sucked or some stain would have bothered me I wanted my Mantle centered and with ZERO stains or marks of ANY kind.

Please point me in the direction of where I can find these rarer cards (That are problem free for the most part) for so much less elsewhere and I will GLADLY go in that direction in the future. Where can I find a 1887 Old Judge Harry Wright graded PSA 5 elsewhere...there are simply none available (to rare to wait 5 years to locate another one...I am a collector and hence collect I can't stand waiting 5 years for a golden deal...that would never amount to much if I waited 5 years per card I add to my collection...in the end I would have like 6-8 cards then time for me to leave Earth)?

I understand what you guys are saying be patient but some of these cards only come up every other year that is to long in my opinion to not be collecting....just to save say a 100$ on a card.

Almost NO hobby is rewarding financially NONE!!!

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I know where you can get a camera for less than $10K, but I can get you an even better deal on a scanner. Just PM me.
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