Setting Definitions for Rarity of Cards

[HRBAKER]

Rare and not rare can also apply to the very same card. As in, "It was rare when I bought it, obviously not so much when I went to sell it."

[joeadcock]

ONLY ONE KNOWN, should be a category onto itself. Of course, there maybe a few others out there not found yet. But this would seem to be the true rare. Now of course, as stated earlier, if not too many want it, then it is not scarce.

[thehoodedcoder]

Originally Posted by HRBAKER

Rare and not rare can also apply to the very same card. As in, "It was rare when I bought it, obviously not so much when I went to sell it."

rare certianly could have a time presense....but again, you just proved my point perfectly. simply stating its rare without further clarification is not enough to make an argument that something is rare. you need to provide the evidence to support the premise you are making.

your also, making a claim, then negating your claim, and that is simply a statement. people can accept a statement for what it is, when no claim is being made. if you make a claim you have to back the claim up. right?

kevin

[HRBAKER]

Kevin,
Might I suggest a class in sarcasm detection.

Jeff

[thehoodedcoder]

i took the whole thread to be sarcasim and humorous.

people have opinions that they feel trump logic and fact or fail to look at that as the first explanation to something, before giving an opinion.

you can see how silly the debate really is now right? this question would never have been posed if something thought about it before posing the debate.

i propose the debate should not exist. the arguments should be closed and the thread deleted now that we alll know what rare means.

LOL.

kevin

[HRBAKER]

I generally don't look at threads on this board through the prism of my Intermediate Logic class. Also, threads aren't generally over when one participant declares them to be. Maybe a new trend has started.

I did shave with Occam's Razor this morning.

All in good fun. Nothing wrong with a more scholarly perspective, it's just another POV.

[Exhibitman]

Rare is when you look for comparable sales on a card and your only reference point is an auction from 2008 for another card from the set in different condition. Rare is when you get pestered repeatedly by type/player/set collectors to sell the card. Rare is when the TPG calls you up and says they can't slab it because they don't know what it is. Rare is when you pass a card around a table of collectors and dealers at the National and no one has seen it before. Rare is when you have had the card on your want list for years and haven't seen it anywhere. Most of all, rare is when I am selling it.

[MikeGarcia]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Rare is when you look for comparable sales on a card and your only reference point is an auction from 2008 for another card from the set in different condition. Rare is when you get pestered repeatedly by type/player/set collectors to sell the card. Rare is when the TPG calls you up and says they can't slab it because they don't know what it is. Rare is when you pass a card around a table of collectors and dealers at the National and no one has seen it before. Rare is when you have had the card on your want list for years and haven't seen it anywhere. Most of all, rare is when I am selling it.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Rare is when you look for comparable sales on a card and your only reference point is an auction from 2008 for another card from the set in different condition. Rare is when you get pestered repeatedly by type/player/set collectors to sell the card. Rare is when the TPG calls you up and says they can't slab it because they don't know what it is. Rare is when you pass a card around a table of collectors and dealers at the National and no one has seen it before. Rare is when you have had the card on your want list for years and haven't seen it anywhere. Most of all, rare is when I am selling it.

Rare are buyers of cards, for what I paid for them from certain auction houses.

Rare is rare..."scarce" has to do with demand, as has been stated. And both are actually relative terms, so have different meanings to different collectors.

[steve B]

Originally Posted by thehoodedcoder

rare certianly could have a time presense....but again, you just proved my point perfectly. simply stating its rare without further clarification is not enough to make an argument that something is rare. you need to provide the evidence to support the premise you are making.

your also, making a claim, then negating your claim, and that is simply a statement. people can accept a statement for what it is, when no claim is being made. if you make a claim you have to back the claim up. right?

kevin

That's an easy one!

If he bought a very high grade red background E98 in say 2009 and wants to sell it now his statement is entirely true in all respects. There were very few until recently, now there are hundreds.

Steve B

[thehoodedcoder]

Originally Posted by steve B

That's an easy one!

If he bought a very high grade red background E98 in say 2009 and wants to sell it now his statement is entirely true in all respects. There were very few until recently, now there are hundreds.

Steve B

you just restated the same thing...again... then added the missing parts i have been saying need to be there, which require clarification...."now there are hundreds"

that gives definition to the rare claim. its all about surrounding context which is the point of my entire argument.

without them there, the statement that it is rare is not complete and out of context.

kevin