O/T - Explosions at the Boston Marathon

[Ulidia]

I grew up in Belfast, Northern Ireland during the "troubles" so have had too much experience of bombings and the fear that they can provoke.

Whilst last Monday's bombing was, and is, terrible (unequivocally so), I am glad that the remaining bomber was captured alive. Not because I wouldn't will him dead but, rather, that it's important that the relevant agencies can obtain as much understanding as possible about whether others, and if so who, were involved.

The sad reality appears to be that a single crazed idiot or two can create bombs that can bring cities to a standstill. Whilst the effect is still every bit as bad, I'd very much hope that this is the work of two crazed and warped scum rather than something wider.

For all the talk re US and the terrorism threat (which clearly exists), it is remarkable how few significant terrorist incidents there have been on US soil since Sept 11. I don't know but can only assume that the security intelligence is more persuasive than we may sometimes credit.


ps - Chechnya is a part of Russia and will hopefully remain so for a long, long time. One thing that does annoy me is that the global media view the Chechnyan separatists as the bone fide representatives and spokespeople of that territory.

[brookdodger55]

He will be treated as as enemy combatant, which will allow the dept of justice
To ? Him for as long as they please hence gizmo. Also the Russian govt
Requested that the US govt investigate him two years ago for his radical postings on you tube. Then he leaves the US last year for six months headed to Russia then onto ? For his training on a green card. Someone dropped the ball on the older brother.
Mike

[itjclarke]

Originally Posted by Ulidia

ps - Chechnya is a part of Russia and will hopefully remain so for a long, long time. One thing that does annoy me is that the global media view the Chechnyan separatists as the bone fide representatives and spokespeople of that territory.[/I]

Not entirely the same, but on the topic of "media view", when Russia had their brief war with Georgia, the US media covered it almost entirely from the side/perspective of the Georgians. The fact that Georgia had been the aggressor, had attacked S Ossetia and killed Russian soldiers was barely mentioned initially, and not mentioned once the heavy fighting began. I'm not saying one position or country was right, but it's frustrating because the media (especially US) tends to choose a side (usually the easy "victim") and go with it. This has happened several times in the past few years. "Freedom fighters"/"Separatists" are often gentler words for "terrorists"/"insurgents".. the names we choose to call them usually depends on which perspective we're viewing it from. Media has a huge influence in that.

adding: PS- I'd be very interested to learn more about what life was like in Belfast during those years/decades. I visited Ireland in college.. there were still some attacks/bombings happening, but never made it to the north.. I mostly only knew/know what I've seen in movies like "In the Name of Father"/ "The Boxer"/etc.

[Ulidia]

Originally Posted by itjclarke

Not entirely the same, but on the topic of "media view", when Russia had their brief war with Georgia, the US media covered it almost entirely from the side/perspective of the Georgians. The fact that Georgia had been the aggressor, had attacked S Ossetia and killed Russian soldiers was barely mentioned initially, and not mentioned once the heavy fighting began. I'm not saying one position or country was right, but it's frustrating because the media (especially US) tends to choose a side (usually the easy "victim") and go with it. This has happened several times in the past few years. "Freedom fighters"/"Separatists" are often gentler words for "terrorists"/"insurgents".. the names we choose to call them usually depends on which perspective we're viewing it from. Media has a huge influence in that.

adding: PS- I'd be very interested to learn more about what life was like in Belfast during those years/decades. I visited Ireland in college.. there were still some attacks/bombings happening, but never made it to the north.. I mostly only knew/know what I've seen in movies like "In the Name of Father"/ "The Boxer"/etc.

Coincidentally, I have a soft spot for Georgia and its capital of Tbilisi as I was there in 1997 - not that long after the civil war and after it won independence from Russian rule.

Was only my second time behind the "iron curtain" and whilst I've been behind it many times since, I've never returned to Tbilisi. The city was frightening, magnificent, beautiful and so much more ruled into one. My travels there were back in the day well before inexpensive travel and before prevalent use of the internet. Really did seem a different world and, certainly, Tbilisi wasn't an overly easy city to get into. Should add that I'd only gone there to watch a sporting event .... Dynamo Tbilisi versus Crusaders of Belfast in a soccer match. I was the only supporter who traveled.


As for life in Belfast? Happy to talk offline about it all sometime. Although I "live" in London these days (for work), Belfast remains my home - it always will be. Beautiful, historic city with tremendous links to the US - those links were solidified during WWII when many US troops were stationed in Northern Ireland before seeing action on the European continent.