jordan help...PREPRINT

[Gary Dunaier]

Originally Posted by chaddurbin

have an interest. supposedly it's a buyback from UD, but those are so messy and can be tampered with so please look at the auto. the serial on the back does match the COA. thanks.

I'm not familiar with this specific product, so excuse any ignorance, but there's something I don't understand.

If this was originally released as an unsigned card, what happened to the back? Is the "Congratulations" back a sticker or label that was placed over the original back?

[HOF Auto Rookies]

Originally Posted by Gary Dunaier

I'm not familiar with this specific product, so excuse any ignorance, but there's something I don't understand.

If this was originally released as an unsigned card, what happened to the back? Is the "Congratulations" back a sticker or label that was placed over the original back?

Originally an unsigned card. The back is affixed with a tamper evident hologram from UD. That 'back' you see, is not the actual back of the card. It's a separate smaller COA that UD made and affixed the matching sticker that matches the one on the card.

Nothing has changed on the original card except adding a signature, numbering it, and an UD sticker. Then you get the COA to go along with it.

Hope that helps

[chaddurbin]

backstory: i struck a deal with the seller for this card thursday night after soliciting advices here. friday morning he shipped.

feeling uneasy about buyback in general i called UD to verify the COA. they weren't able to, no big deal it happens. then i started digging around and came upon the image below in worthpoint. you can't click into the auction anymore (maybe they were shut down), but the 2 cards below look to be an exact match to the card i bought, except it didn't have the "1/3".

i also did some googling and could not find the jordan sticker as part of the buyback that year. receiving the card in hand today it seems to me that the signature is embedded with the card, while the "1/3" seems to be above the card's surface . any scientific way to know for sure? of course i've opened up a paypal dispute.

[chaddurbin]

closeup of sig. also the card is really glossy? does the fleer sticker have this much gloss? i was surprised by that for an almost 30 yr old card.

[thecatspajamas]

That's weird that Worthpoint won't pull up either of the 2 times that particular card was listed. I couldn't get it to open up either, and I've never had that happen with them. Makes me wonder if the original eBay listing was pulled for some reason, but that's purely speculation. I also can't see it well enough in the small thumbnail to be sure that it is the same one.

So looking at the card in hand, look at it under high magnification. You should be able to see the dot pattern that makes up the card image, and it should be pretty obvious when you slide over and look at the sig and 1/3 whether they are written on the surface of the card or part of the printed image. It's going to be pretty much impossible for us to tell from looking at any photos you post here.

[cb7171]

Worthpoint leaves a lot to be desired. I see where most of the things I search on that site have not sold in a year and believe me they are not all that obscure.