What is Major League Baseball's most unbreakable record?

[tcdyess]

How about Chesbro's 41 wins in a season? I don't think anyone will ever sniff that again either....

Tim

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by tcdyess

How about Chesbro's 41 wins in a season? I don't think anyone will ever sniff that again either....

Tim

Especially in today's normal 5 man rotation....Even with a 4 man rotation, no chance whatsoever...

[smtjoy]

Another to add would be breaking Johnny Vander Meer's record of throwing two consecutive no-hitters.

[bcbgcbrcb]

Most career pitching losses, I think Cy Young holds that record as well, no?

[mark evans]

Originally Posted by smtjoy

Another to add would be breaking Johnny Vander Meer's record of throwing two consecutive no-hitters.

Agreed.

[BobC]

I actually think Cy has two records that will never be broken, his total career losses, and total career complete games. As someone else mentioned, there is a possibility that some pitcher gets close to his career wins total of 511 but, what team would keep sending out a pitcher who loses over 300 games like Cy did? No one will the way the game is played now, especially with the dollars paid to starting pitchers. That person will end up in the bullpen or the minors before ever getting close.

And as for career complete games, didn't Cy pitch something like 749 complete games out of the 815 he started in his career? As someone else pointed out, the way that pitchers are handled today and kept on pitch counts, if a top pitcher has even 2 or 3 complete games a year, that is a big deal. But 749 for an entire career, that will never happen again. Think about it, if a pitcher had 10 complete games pitched a year, it would take them 75 years to equal Cy's record. You have to go back to 2011 and James Shields for the last pitcher to even reach 10 complete games in one season (he had 11), and before that back to 1999 and Randy Johnson with 12 complete games. And even then, Cy's got over 100 more than Pud Galvin who's 2nd on the all time complete game list.

Neither one of these will ever even be approached.

On all these other records, like the hit streak, no-hitters in a row, consecutive games played, those are obtainable even though highly unlikely. Designated hitters don't have to play in the field and could play for a long time if they tried. Pitchers and batters can get hot and go on crazy streaks, even DiMaggio's hit streak can be approached one day. Heck, Altuve might make a run at it in the next couple of years even. The one comment about triples is interesting and very tough also but, that is more a function of the way they build ballparks nowadays. You don't have the huge open expanses from the early playing fields they had at a lot of old ballparks back in the day. They're more like bandboxes now and too small to get around to 3rd on most of the time. Still, I think Cy has the two most impossible to break of all.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by mark evans

Agreed.

Absolutely right about Vander Meer....

[RaidonCollects]

Has anyone said "most perfect world series games in a day?"

In my honest opinion it is probably Young's 500wins or Ryan's 5700 SOs. I don't think any teams would let pitchers play often enough to get close to those records, even if they were consistent enough. The last person to get 400wins was Johnson in 1920. No one will get that unless the way teams manage pitching changes drastically.

Owen

[triwak]

Originally Posted by tcdyess

How about Chesbro's 41 wins in a season? I don't think anyone will ever sniff that again either....

Tim

The actual record is 60 wins in one season, by Old Hoss Radbourne. (Some sources still say 59). Chesbro's 41 is the highest after the 19th century.

[nolemmings]

Cy Young's win record. It's not easy to envision a 30 game winner in one season anymore (it's been 45 years), where 35 starts seems to be the max. Now picture having to win 30 games a season for 17 seasons--and still be one short of Cy. Ain't happening.

[bobbyw8469]

Great thread, but I really don't think Bond's should even be listed. Just my opinion....

Agreed....I would rather seeing Ted Williams batting .400 than Bonds hitting 73 homers. In my opinion, that will be the easiest record to break.

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Agreed....I would rather seeing Ted Williams batting .400 than Bonds hitting 73 homers. In my opinion, that will be the easiest record to break.

Bobby,

I thought about Rogers Hornsby averaging over .400 across five full seasons as a choice. I personally don't ever see that happening again. Problem is, hitting .400 isn't really a record, so I left Hornsby out.

As for Bonds, I included him because I doubt anyone will hit 73 in a season for a long, long time. Unless, of course, the steroid era has a renaissance or they start building much smaller ballparks.

Great content...from everyone.

Carry on and have fun!

Best Regards,

Eric

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by Eric72

Bobby,

I thought about Rogers Hornsby averaging over .400 across five full seasons as a choice. I personally don't ever see that happening again. Problem is, hitting .400 isn't really a record, so I left Hornsby out.

As for Bonds, I included him because I doubt anyone will hit 73 in a season for a long, long time. Unless, of course, the steroid era has a renaissance or they start building much smaller ballparks.

Great content...from everyone.

Carry on and have fun!

Best Regards,

Eric

My primary objection to Bond's being listed was the steroid taint that is smeared all over him....

[Paul S]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

My primary objection to Bond's being listed was the steroid taint that is smeared all over him....

His cap size record could be unbreakable

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

My primary objection to Bond's being listed was the steroid taint that is smeared all over him....

Kevin,

I see your point and completely agree that the record is tainted. I wonder if MLB will ever put an asterisk next to 73...and 762, for that matter.

Having said that, I hope you'll agree that leaving Bonds in this poll makes more sense than me including Frank Baker in my last one.

The board is weighing in with great content, and it has been a pleasure to hear everyone's thoughts. I am rather surprised at one thing, though.

Nobody seems to have mentioned Eddie Gaedel.

Best Regards,

Eric

[HOF Auto Rookies]

What about a list of modern records? I know pretty much all the pre-war ones are untouchable because of the changes in the modern game. Just be curious to what people would think about the modern records.

[ValKehl]

An obscure home run record that I doubt will ever be broken is the record for consecutive pinch hit homers, which is 3. Lee Lacy first accomplished this feat on 1978, and in 1979 this feat was duplicated by this player (when he played for the Phillies), who was my favorite player with the expansion Washington Senators of the late 1960s:
Val

[pitchernut]

Breaking Ryan's career 7 no-no's