I thought I had a tremendous find!

[mr2686]

Jim, I agree about the Berra and will add that of the 14 or so Berra autographs I have (mostly all in person and some from his website) over the course of 25 years, non of them have that rounded an E or come across the B on the bottom quite so much or with such a gap between the bottom and the top of that cross over towards the E. I even have one that he signed a bit larger on a magazine to match the size of the Mantle that was already there and he didn't do either of those things. Heck, I got some from him just a couple of months after he had his major fall, and non of those were like that either.

[dgo71]

Yogi always has a small, frugal autograph. I've never seen him sign that large on a card. In addition to the letter formation problems you mentioned, that caught my eye instantly.

The Brock actually looks good, and the Cal looks like a legit late 80's version. However, with as many awful forgeries that you've shown, I wouldn't touch a single thing out of this collection.

[Deertick]

Originally Posted by dgo71

Yogi always has a small, frugal autograph. I've never seen him sign that large on a card. In addition to the letter formation problems you mentioned, that caught my eye instantly.

The Brock actually looks good, and the Cal looks like a legit late 80's version. However, with as many awful forgeries that you've shown, I wouldn't touch a single thing out of this collection.

My problem with the Brock: Most of his 'B' s start with a downstroke and the 'r' has an extraneous loop.

As I said before. the Cal is a really tough call for me, only because I have never seen him start the 'a' that high. It is actually touching the 'C'. If someone has an example, it might be the tipping point.

[Deertick]

Two I'm pretty confident, one a little iffy, one bad. I'll let you guess which 3

[timzcardz]

Originally Posted by dgo71

the Cal looks like a legit late 80's version. However, with as many awful forgeries that you've shown, I wouldn't touch a single thing out of this collection.

Absolutely not a late 80's version. His autograph was no where near this abbreviated in the late 80's. More like the style of a late 90's to current version.

Originally Posted by Deertick

My problem with the Brock: Most of his 'B' s start with a downstroke and the 'r' has an extraneous loop.

As I said before. the Cal is a really tough call for me, only because I have never seen him start the 'a' that high. It is actually touching the 'C'. If someone has an example, it might be the tipping point.

Ripken is by far the largest part of my collection. I agree with you in that I have never seen the "a" touching the "C". Also of significance is the curve of the lower part of the C. This is inconsistent with his "C" that typically tapers out at the bottom becoming more linear or flat, and I believe that it has always been that way.

[dgo71]

Originally Posted by timzcardz

Absolutely not a late 80's version. His autograph was no where near this abbreviated in the late 80's. More like the style of a late 90's to current version.

I have over 40 in-person Cal's ranging from 1987-present, so I may have mny time frames wrong. Definitely older than his current version, these days he has far fewer letters and a bigger J.

FWIW I have several in-person Lasordas that look like the one posted as well.

[Deertick]

Originally Posted by dgo71

FWIW I have several in-person Lasordas that look like the one posted as well.

Yup, pretty confident on the Lasorda and Glavine. I have found a few examples that match the Yount, but it is atypical. Francona is a dud.

[dgo71]

The Yount has all the characteristics of his graph. He's one of those guys that signed a bunch as a player, and under so many varying circumstances, so it'd be hard to be swayed one way or the other by subtle variances. Was he sitting down, standing up, walking, in a crowd? Hard to say without knowing the circumstances around when it was signed and under what conditions. That said, I don't hate it, but I'd probably wait for a different one.

[shelly]

Originally Posted by dgo71

Yogi always has a small, frugal autograph. I've never seen him sign that large on a card. In addition to the letter formation problems you mentioned, that caught my eye instantly.

The Brock actually looks good, and the Cal looks like a legit late 80's version. However, with as many awful forgeries that you've shown, I wouldn't touch a single thing out of this collection.

Totaly agree. Why would you go near that garbage. Every signiture is qustionable.