Increcible prices for PWCC auctions

calvindog · #1 04-27-2013, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by frankbmd

I'm confused. Yes a 3 second shill is possible, but isn't this what happens when two people snipe bid in the same auction with a "gotta have it" mentality? Both bids within 6 seconds of the hammer. If the price is too high, aren't both parties equally guilty? Clearly the 3 second bidder, didn't know that a 6 second bidder was out there. Just a thought.

Frank, I don't have a problem with two people putting a high snipe in -- it just seems bizarre that the underbidder only bids on PWCC auctions. And this isn't the first time such a thing has has happened in a PWCC auction. Or the second time. Or the third time.

Edited to add: this is not to say this is the auctioneer's fault -- it could be the consignor.

Bwstew · #2 04-27-2013, 08:49 AM

Did y'all see the Cobb that was tore in half and glued back together bring $415?

scotgreb · #3 04-27-2013, 09:09 AM

and he bid on just 5 auctions in the past 30 days, all in PWCC auctions! . . .

If you do any amount of research you'll find this is very common with PWCC auctions (and maybe other consignment sellers for all I know).

Some people care -- some people don't

HRBAKER · #4 04-27-2013, 09:11 AM

Some people know -- most people don't

Gradedcardman · #5 04-27-2013, 02:17 PM

I will NOT use them again as I don't bid on my consignments.

Runscott · #6 04-27-2013, 06:19 PM

I'd like to hear from the consignors who DO bid on their own consignments.

Surely we have someone on this board who's brazen enough to speak up?

CMIZ5290 · #7 04-27-2013, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by calvindog

Frank, I don't have a problem with two people putting a high snipe in -- it just seems bizarre that the underbidder only bids on PWCC auctions. And this isn't the first time such a thing has has happened in a PWCC auction. Or the second time. Or the third time.

Edited to add: this is not to say this is the auctioneer's fault -- it could be the consignor.

+1....

Peter_Spaeth · #8 04-27-2013, 08:58 PM

PWCC posted on CU recently in response to charges of scan manipulation.

"In particular, we are writing in response to baseless claims that we somehow are manipulating our scans. Such accusations are ridiculous and I ask that folks please remain substantive in their accusations of any company (not just PWCC). We are not altering our scans, in fact we go to great length to ensure the images we provide are as close to life-like as humanly possible. Obviously, if we were altering images we'd have plenty of upset buyers... right? Aside from the obvious moral objection associated with this level of misrepresentation, the shear workload associated with having to manipulate scans would be stagging. So even if you don't trust us personally, perhaps you can trust the practical impossibility of such an accusation."

I can't speak to intent, but PWCC's scans do not look realistic to me, they look thermonuclear.

calvindog · #9 04-27-2013, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

PWCC posted on CU recently in response to charges of scan manipulation.

"In particular, we are writing in response to baseless claims that we somehow are manipulating our scans. Such accusations are ridiculous and I ask that folks please remain substantive in their accusations of any company (not just PWCC). We are not altering our scans, in fact we go to great length to ensure the images we provide are as close to life-like as humanly possible. Obviously, if we were altering images we'd have plenty of upset buyers... right? Aside from the obvious moral objection associated with this level of misrepresentation, the shear workload associated with having to manipulate scans would be stagging. So even if you don't trust us personally, perhaps you can trust the practical impossibility of such an accusation."

I can't speak to intent, but PWCC's scans do not look realistic to me, they look thermonuclear.

Kind of hard to take a guy seriously who has so many obviously shilled auctions and claims a 'moral' objection to any fraud.

Matthew H · #10 04-27-2013, 09:40 PM

How the Hell do you "go to great lengths to make images as close to life-like as possible"?????? just do the scan and leave it alone!

Deertick · #11 04-28-2013, 10:13 AM

Which is it? Manipulating scans to "to ensure the images we provide are as close to life-like as humanly possible." or "the shear workload associated with having to manipulate scans would be stagg(er)ing."?

Intentional or not, the scans are hot. They sure don't look like factory default settings. And if someones job is ensuring "the images we provide are as close to life-like as humanly possible.", they aren't manipulating them properly.