R E Question

[David Atkatz]

LOL! "Now that I've done everything I could to make it impossible for you, now that I've called your autographs forgeries, and called you a liar, have a nice day."

Who's the "a hole"?

[BigJJ]

D,

I wish your family well too.

Withdrawal was not a great idea from a financial point of view. And what was of concern, among a few other items, was that few make decisions contrary to their financial incentive.

I think your only means of rehabbing the withdrawal decision is to present additional positive information - (i) be forthright with regard to the particulars of provenance, just stand tall and do it, and (ii) get a PSA cert in addition for all of the photos. can ask REA, or another house, Hunt, SCP, Heritage, Lelands, etc. to ask PSA to review additional information you provide and the auction houses may cover upfront -discounted- costs for PSA review.

I think if you can get a second (PSA) cert, and provide more details regarding provenance, you may make up for the withdrawal.

With regard to historical items, you are buying a percentage chance of authenticity. 90% chance a piece is signed by Ruth, the price is 7k, 70% chance of authenticity, the price if 5k, 50% chance the price is 3k etc etc. (these are not the actual prices, just illustrative).

And this is because the more knowledgeable collectors will compete for the higher percentage pieces. You want to increase the percentage chance of an autograph being real when you present it to market. It is not just a question of getting a cert and finding a willing auction house. You want 10k, 20k - not 3k, 5k! Give as much information as you can, and get the additional PSA if you can.

I wish you and your family well.

[David Atkatz]

Excellent advice, Jon.

[Big Dave]

I think the biggest mistake the consigner made was putting all 11 up at auction, at the same auction house, at the same time. If he would have spread these out over time and via a few different auction companies, I am sure he could have avoided all the noise on here.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Big Dave

I think the biggest mistake the consigner made was putting all 11 up at auction, at the same auction house, at the same time. If he would have spread these out over time and via a few different auction companies, I am sure he could have avoided all the noise on here.

You are right - he would have had a far lower chance of getting caught.

[shelly]

Originally Posted by Big Dave

I think the biggest mistake the consigner made was putting all 11 up at auction, at the same auction house, at the same time. If he would have spread these out over time and via a few different auction companies, I am sure he could have avoided all the noise on here.

Why, they where authenticated and had large bids on them. They where taken down by the seller. He has said that over and over again. 1 or 9 what difference does it make. Spence said they are authentic what more do you need.
I really can not think how somebody could make a difference once they where authenticated and placed in the auction by REA. You understand that Spence and Jsa are so respected that you would spend thousand of dollars based on an opinion

That being said. There are still some smart people out there that no better than to believe in just one man's opinion. That is why this site is so important I also like it because I get to watch a certain person make a total fool out of himself over and over again.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by BigJJ

D,
With regard to historical items, you are buying a percentage chance of authenticity. 90% chance a piece is signed by Ruth, the price is 7k, 70% chance of authenticity, the price if 5k, 50% chance the price is 3k etc etc. (these are not the actual prices, just illustrative).

Yeah, I know they are just illustrative - I posted almost the exact thing earlier today

Jon - call Peter, he's hiring.

[BigJJ]

Originally Posted by Runscott

Yeah, I know they are just illustrative - I posted almost the exact thing earlier today

did not see that particular post earli which I just read, we are of one mind.