Are you Smarter than an SGC Grader? Revealed.

[Greenmonster]

Question No. 1A - Which card received a numerical grade, L or R? Right

Question No. !B - Explain why you think so..Left appears trimmed along the top

Question No. 2 - What numerical grade did that card receive? Card on right received an SGC 55

[Cardboard Junkie]

Right A

Left 50

[Sean1125]

left 5 right A, right looks trimmed on the bottom right border to me

[Al C.risafulli]

It is super-difficult to tell this sort of thing from a scan, and the larger the scan is, the harder it is to tell.

That said, these games are fun as hell to play.

So I'll say the card on the left got an AUTH, because the top and right edges look wavy and uneven to me.

The card on the right, despite having much smaller borders, received a numerical grade, because the cuts appear natural (though you can't possibly tell this for certain without looking at the edges, obviously). That said, I'll guess it's an SGC 50.

-Al

[ullmandds]

Im not a very good grader but i say left A(top rt corner looks too sharp)...rt 60.

[Brendan]

Left looks trimmed. The top border is slanted a little to the right.

I'll go with SGC 50 on the right card.

[glynparson]

Left a
Right 50

That said making a definitive statement on grade based on a scan is certainly not advisable.

[gnaz01]

Left = A (top right corner trimmed)
Right = SGC 40

[srs1a]

Left - A, as many have said, the top right corner looks fishy
Right - 50 - the t/b centering is poor, but SGC seems comfortable giving 50's for cards that look like this

[pgellis]

Left - A (top has been trimmed)
Right - 60

[frankbmd]

Well, I was hoping Zone91 would chime in before ending this thread. I know he's awake somewhere out there.

In this post I am including the corner scans. There certainly seems to be a consensus developing, in part perhaps (?) due to the "herd immunity" effect of folks reading the thread before submitting their answer. Not that the herd is wrong as evidenced by the corner scans.

At this point based on the answers so far, I would entertain offers from the following for the card on the left (all of whom gave it a 60),

Sean
Jose
Paul, a late addition who posted while I was composing this post,
Peter, who tried to second guess me &
Joe, who tried to second guess the grader.


For the card on the right an offer from

Mr. McKenzie (who gave it an 84)

would be more than welcome.

I wish I had structured this thread a little differently.
It would have been interesting to see what people would offer for the card they thought had received the numerical grade, rather than guessing the grade itself. Then it would have truly been a buy the card not the holder thread.

Revealing the corners in the proper L and R configuration below will end the thread's statistical analysis. The upper right corner was sighted and cited by many as the "tell". (HOMOPHONES used in the same sentence appropriately are rarer than hen's teeth.) (Thanks to David for the correction just edited.)

Ironically there is only one post that corresponds to reality. I agree that giving the answer that is the same as the SGC graders does not imply or prove that either of them is correct.

I also don't know what this says about TPG, but roughly 30% of the board disagreed with 70% of the board regarding the authentic card. I think SGC did get that right.

For those trying to second guess me, I recently purchased the upgrade to replace the authentic card. When I looked at them though, I was impressed that the authentic card was clearly shorter than the "trimmed" card and from a distance of 6 feet or more, depending on one's eyesight, the authentic card actually looks more appealing.

The market value of authentic cards seems more variable than their numerically grouped counterparts, and even though some folks wouldn't touch a "trimmed" card, eye appeal does seem to affect market value to some extent.

Finally, I didn't pay too much for either card, and will do well regardless of which one I choose to sell first.

The full reveal will follow soon. Further discussion is welcome of course

[EvilKing00]

1 - left card got the A - slight trim, on angle from left to right.

2 - Right card SGC 40

[Prof_Plum]

Agree with most of the others.

Left looks trimmed so A
Right SGC 35

Still seems kind of funny that the card on the left despite looking trimmed measures slightly larger than the one on the right.

[T206Collector]

Question No. 1A - Which card received a numerical grade, L or R?

L

Question No. !B - Explain why you think so.

The left one is a diamond cut, not a trim. The wide borders support this. However, the only way to see if a T206 card has been trimmed is by comparing all four edges while looking perpendicularly at the card -- compare the color and striations. You cannot determine a well-trimmed T206 by looking just at the front and the back.

The right one has the tell-tale "bat ears" top corners, showing that rounded corners were trimmed down to look sharper.

Question No. 2 - What numerical grade did that card receive?

The left got a 60; the right got an A.