A cheap alternative for the T206 Demmitt St. Louis variation

[RCMcKenzie]

Ted,

I completely agree. Low cost is the reason I began collecting T213 in the first place. I got this one for $12 on ebay about ten years ago. It has back damage, but as you say I can upgrade to a very nice condition T213 Demmitt for $100. Plus, the T213 is much scarcer than the Polar Bear cards.t213demf.jpg

[Runscott]

Ted, I had planned on doing some research and including it in a future article about Coupons, but since you posted this card...

Given that the T206 Demmitt NY came out first, followed by the T206 Demmitt StL, THEN the Coupons came out,

Why are their remnants of 'New York' on the Coupon 'Demmitt StL', which came out after the T206 issue, but not on the T206 'Demmitt StL'? It leads me to believe that the plates for the T206 Demmitt NY were saved, despite the change to StL, and that the artist for the Coupon cards used the NY plates. Kind of senseless, but it appears that's what happened.

Thoughts?

[Craig M]

Philadelphia Ted,

I love it!

NEW YORK/STL/CHICAGO all wrapped up into one cool Demmitt.

Thanks for posting!

Craig

[RCMcKenzie]

Originally Posted by Runscott

Ted, I had planned on doing some research and including it in a future article about Coupons, but since you posted this card...

Given that the T206 Demmitt NY came out first, followed by the T206 Demmitt StL, THEN the Coupons came out,

Why are their remnants of 'New York' on the Coupon 'Demmitt StL', which came out after the T206 issue, but not on the T206 'Demmitt StL'? It leads me to believe that the plates for the T206 Demmitt NY were saved, despite the change to StL, and that the artist for the Coupon cards used the NY plates. Kind of senseless, but it appears that's what happened.

Thoughts?

Is it possible that when the Polar Bear cards were printed, a higher grade of white ink was used, which masked the 'New York' underneath, and then later, the T213 printing run used the same plate, but used a lesser quality white ink that was more transparent allowing the "New York" underneath to show through the layer of white ink?

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Runscott

Ted, I had planned on doing some research and including it in a future article about Coupons, but since you posted this card...

Given that the T206 Demmitt NY came out first, followed by the T206 Demmitt StL, THEN the Coupons came out,

Why are their remnants of 'New York' on the Coupon 'Demmitt StL', which came out after the T206 issue, but not on the T206 'Demmitt StL'? It leads me to believe that the plates for the T206 Demmitt NY were saved, despite the change to StL, and that the artist for the Coupon cards used the NY plates. Kind of senseless, but it appears that's what happened.

Thoughts?

Scott

My T206 Demmitt (St Louis) shown here is one example that the "New York" lettering is not visible. But, it's my understanding that on some T206 Demmitt (St Louis)
cards the "New York" lettering (or part of it) is faintly visible.

Which supports your theory that more than one printing plate was used to print these Demmitt variations.

Perhaps, other members of this forum will chime in with such Demmitt (St Louis) cards.


TED Z
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[Tobacco&Gum]

You can make out some of the "New York" in this one I found in completed listings.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/T206-Ray-Dem...p2047675.l2557

[jp1216]

Here is my T206 STL. Very faint letter N is about all I can see.

[auggiedoggy]

I've seen some fairly pricey T213s on eBay lately. Are there *really* any deals out there anymore?

[Runscott]

I realize that part of the 'New York' shows up in all of the T206 'St.L' variations, but not nearly as much as in the Coupon. It's as if they cleaned up the 'New York' plate all over again and didn't do as good of a job. The poor job makes sense, but using a different plate (other than the T206 'St.L' one) doesn't...to me, anyway.

The Polar Bear white ink theory is an interesting one. Maybe Steve can comment on that.

This stuff is what makes the T206 set interesting to me, even though it's like hanging out with the peasants to some vintage collectors