When do bids start flying in at the REA auction?

[oldjudge]

Adrian--forget the number on the flip. My Mantle is available to the first one who will pay $50k. Granted, the 8.5 in REA looks a little better, but 7x the price. This is the insanity of set registry which has very little to do with the actual cards. This is the Cartophilic version of tulip mania (look it up if you don't know what that is--you will learn something and it will keep you from posting for a while).

[cyseymour]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

Adrian--forget the number on the flip. My Mantle is available to the first one who will pay $50k. Granted, the 8.5 in REA looks a little better, but 7x the price. This is the insanity of set registry which has very little to do with the actual cards. This is the Cartophilic version of tulip mania (look it up if you don't know what that is--you will learn something and it will keep you from posting for a while).

The entire hobby is the cartophilic version of tulip mania. Set Registry insanity is just the delusion that lies within the delusion that any of these cards are truly worth anything at all.

[Zone91]

Not sure to me the 52 Topps Mantle is one of the big 5 cards in the hobby (T206 Wagner, T206 Plank, 1933 Goudy Lajoie, 1914 Baltimore news Ruth and the 52 Topps Mantle...not in any specific order) I believe a 8.5 is worth at least 300 000$ easy....and I would pay that much if I had the money to do so to own this important card in this high grade.

To me modern cards that are made to be rare are the insanity of this hobby!!!

Mantle is a BIG part of this hobby...it does not need to be rare when it comes to Mantle there are way more Mantle collectors out there compared to his cards!!! I also believe a PSA 10 is worth over 1$ million dollars as well!!! I would rather have a PSA 10 52 Topps Mantle than any card in the hobby except maybe the 1914 Baltimore news Ruth even then I am not sure.

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[Bored5000]

Originally Posted by Zone91

Not sure to me the 52 Topps Mantle is one of the big 5 cards in the hobby (T206 Wagner, T206 Plank, 1933 Goudy Lajoie, 1914 Baltimore news Ruth and the 52 Topps Mantle...not in any specific order) I believe a 8.5 is worth at least 300 000$ easy....and I would pay that much if I had the money to do so to own this important card in this high grade.

To me modern cards that are made to be rare are the insanity of this hobby!!!

Mantle is a BIG part of this hobby...it does not need to be rare when it comes to Mantle there are way more Mantle collectors out there compared to his cards!!! I also believe a PSA 10 is worth over 1$ million dollars as well!!! I would rather have a PSA 10 52 Topps Mantle than any card in the hobby except maybe the 1914 Baltimore news Ruth even then I am not sure.

Post # 9

The only 8.5 '52 Topps Mantle that Card Target shows sold for $154,700 as a BIN in 2010. The only "9" listed on Card Target sold for $286,195 in 2006. I know the '52 Topps Mantle is an iconic card in the hobby, but I just can't believe that is a quarter of a million dollar card.

Even as iconic as the '52 Topps Mantle is, I think I would be going with other choices if I had a quarter of a million to spend on cards

http://www.cardtarget.com/cgi-bin/gm...submit=Display

[Zone91]

Bored5000

To each our own I would love to own a 52 Topps Mantle in PSA 9 or 10!!! To me it is the ultimate card in our hobby (and by far the nicest looking card as well....the blue sky is simply amazing)....people simply loved the Mick and people still love him!!! Yes I own a 52 Topps Mantle but will be buying a Ruth rookie some time in the near future and the 52 will always be more treasured to me...even if I had a T206 Wagner the 52 would still be # 1 to me!!!

Ruth and Wagner are not very photogenic they both look weird to me!! Mantle on the other hand has the full baseball American image...and his cards look much much better than those 2 other famous players.

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[ullmandds]

no love for the 51 bowman mantle, huh?

[Zone91]

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[Zone91]

ullmandds

Yes I want the 51 as well for my set but to me it is not even close in its beauty compared to the 52 Topps....again my opinion!!!

Looking at pics of the 52 Topps over the years on the computer does not do the card justice compared to real life when I received my 52 Topps it was instant love at first site the card simply draws you in and makes you love it!!! I you have one that still has that amazing blue you can't help but day dream when looking at it it brings you right into the game of baseball....and at 32 years old not many picture with a human on it give you such a feeling!!!

It is simply a work or art!!! I now understand why people fall in love with some paintings....I did not understand this before I held the 52 Topps in my hands....never understood what the craze was all about.

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[Wymers Auction]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

no love for the 51 bowman mantle, huh?

You get so hung up on technicalities just his proper rookie card. I agree with you on this one I would rather own a great looking bowman than a lesser topps.

[Jlighter]

Originally Posted by cyseymour

The entire hobby is the cartophilic version of tulip mania. Set Registry insanity is just the delusion that lies within the delusion that any of these cards are truly worth anything at all.

Gold and Artwork are "worthless" it's up to the marketplace to assign value.

[Shoele$$]

Originally Posted by Jlighter

Gold and Artwork are "worthless" it's up to the marketplace to assign value.

I'm still waiting for the "marketplace" to think 1200 sq. ft homes in Las Vegas are worth $400,000 again ......I've got a few properties left in that size range that I'd love to sell at that price

As has been said many, many times......all bubbles......eventually burst.

[itjclarke]

Originally Posted by Shoele$$

I'm still waiting for the "marketplace" to think 1200 sq. ft homes in Las Vegas are worth $400,000 again ......I've got a few properties left in that size range that I'd love to sell at that price

Hey, seems like the Phoenix area is starting to turn around pretty nicely.. Vegas next? if not already?

BTW- in response to earlier post, gold actually does have nice practicle value as a corrosion resistant, flexible metal... just ask the first US spacewalker Ed White and all who followed that were able to breath through flexible gold coated hoses.

[ullmandds]

gold is still one of the best dental restorative materials...i'd much rather have gold than rare backed t206's!

[Jlighter]

Originally Posted by itjclarke

Hey, seems like the Phoenix area is starting to turn around pretty nicely.. Vegas next? if not already?

BTW- in response to earlier post, gold actually does have nice practicle value as a corrosion resistant, flexible metal... just ask the first US spacewalker Ed White and all who followed that were able to breath through flexible gold coated hoses.

Originally Posted by ullmandds

gold is still one of the best dental restorative materials...i'd much rather have gold than rare backed t206's!

But these uses still don't make Gold VERY useful as compared to copper. If Gold didn't have value as an anti-inflation tool and jewelry, the value would be minimal.

[Shoele$$]

Originally Posted by itjclarke

Hey, seems like the Phoenix area is starting to turn around pretty nicely.. Vegas next? if not already?

Not even close......there's still TONS of defaulted and currently defaulting loans that are back logged where people are still living their homes and not paying their mortgage. The media and local real estate professionals are trying to "hype" the real estate market and get people thinking inventory of REOs and short sales are dwindling....yeah right!

The devil is truly in the details, and housing markets across the US in areas where the bubble burst the biggest are soon to be flooded again with all of these homes that are still in default.

[itjclarke]

Originally Posted by Shoele$$

The devil is truly in the details, and housing markets across the US in areas where the bubble burst the biggest are soon to be flooded again with all of these homes that are still in default.

And a hell of a lot of houses in developments that were never completed and/or occupied. Seems like it will be a longer road back anywhere there were many more houses built than needed. I have a small investment property in AZ, and been watching it steadily climb over the past year, but it's still at about 50% of its high pre-recession.

My old roommate moved to Vegas in about 2005 and promptly bought up a bunch there. I don't keep in close contact with him anymore, but know he's got a ways to go till he gets his investments back.

The low housing inventory places (like within SF) are going nuts right now though... Prices up like 25-30% in the past year.