Fair shake; calling out Kirk Keith

[JoeyF1981]

Originally Posted by eb548

I am unaware of any prior history between joey farino and his accuser alluded to in this post. However i must mention a recent transaction between a Joseph Farino and myself on ebay dated 4/13/13. I purchased a t206 cobb red portrait for $625. Never received and messaged the seller numerous times inquiring about the card to no avail. Seller never responded and i receive an email from paypal that my money was refunded. The seller -- Joseph Farino -- no communication and refused to send the card. I checked the sellers history and he sold the same exact card to another ebay member a few days prior to my purchase and refunded his money as well! I do know if this is the same Joseph Farino but his ebay id i believe was ital**nz (the item has been deleted so i cant retrieve the member history off ebay) and his email which was linked to his paypal account was celtic*****91@gmail.com. If this is the correct Joseph Farino, I feel obligated to let the forum members know. Do not deal with! Absolute horrific seller. If it is not, i apologize and will remove this post should i receive proper evidence.

yes that is me. I did in fact refund your money because I decided to hold onto the card. I refunded your money with no questions asked. If I recall you left me negative feedback accusing me of being a scammer when I refunded your money. If i was a scammer I wouldve taken your money and kept the card. I instead refunded your money asap. Ive sold many many cards with no problems at all. I thought I was ready to sell that card, but I was wrong. That was my fault.

[Cardboard Junkie]

[QUOTE=JoeyF1981;1136429]yes that is me. I did in fact refund your money because I decided to hold onto the card. I refunded your money with no questions asked. If I recall you left me negative feedback accusing me of being a scammer when I refunded your money. If i was a scammer I wouldve taken your money and kept the card. I instead refunded your money asap. Ive sold many many cards with no problems at all. I thought I was ready to sell that card, but I was wrong. That was my fault.[/QU

oh boy!

[eb548]

Joseph- No response to my ebay messages and selling the same card twice! I am not going to start anything with you. Its just cardboard and i will move on. Just wanted to make the forum members aware. I will let them make their own judgments. This forum is made up of many collectors who just want to go about their hobby in the most honest and enjoyable of ways. I will leave you all with this:

The second ebay purchaser of the exact card you sold me a week or so later contacted me as well. Here is the email he sent me (copy and paste without full id names):

"Hi. I see you also had a bad experience buying from it****z31. I too "bought" the T206 Cobb Red from him. I bought on Friday, April 5. The seller requested I send the funds the same day. I agreed.

On Monday, April 8, I saw that a refund had been initiated. There was no explanation. The seller told me he was called out of town on business for 3 weeks and could not sell me the card. However, the PayPal payment said "pending." This means that the seller did not have the funds in his account necessary to issue the refund. The following day, he attempted to get me to cancel the order. I did not cancel until the PayPal refund went from "pending" to completed.

Today, I checked his feedback to see if he scammed anyone else and I saw that you left negative feedback. I then looked into a little more and found this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-T206-Ty...item35c6123bf4

It's the same card that we "bought"!!

- s*p*r*a*49"

[Cardboard Junkie]

Originally Posted by eb548

Joseph- No response to my ebay messages and selling the same card twice! I am not going to start anything with you. Its just cardboard and i will move on. Just wanted to make the forum members aware. I will let them make their own judgments. This forum is made up of many collectors who just want to go about their hobby in the most honest and enjoyable of ways. I will leave you all with this:

The second ebay purchaser of the exact card you sold me a week or so later contacted me as well. Here is the email he sent me (copy and paste without full id names):

"Hi. I see you also had a bad experience buying from it****z31. I too "bought" the T206 Cobb Red from him. I bought on Friday, April 5. The seller requested I send the funds the same day. I agreed.

On Monday, April 8, I saw that a refund had been initiated. There was no explanation. The seller told me he was called out of town on business for 3 weeks and could not sell me the card. However, the PayPal payment said "pending." This means that the seller did not have the funds in his account necessary to issue the refund. The following day, he attempted to get me to cancel the order. I did not cancel until the PayPal refund went from "pending" to completed.

Today, I checked his feedback to see if he scammed anyone else and I saw that you left negative feedback. I then looked into a little more and found this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-T206-Ty...item35c6123bf4

It's the same card that we "bought"!!

- s*p*r*a*49"

Joey, hung by your own petard!

[JoeyF1981]

Originally Posted by eb548

Joseph- No response to my ebay messages and selling the same card twice! I am not going to start anything with you. Its just cardboard and i will move on. Just wanted to make the forum members aware. I will let them make their own judgments. This forum is made up of many collectors who just want to go about their hobby in the most honest and enjoyable of ways. I will leave you all with this:

The second ebay purchaser of the exact card you sold me a week or so later contacted me as well. Here is the email he sent me (copy and paste without full id names):

"Hi. I see you also had a bad experience buying from it****z31. I too "bought" the T206 Cobb Red from him. I bought on Friday, April 5. The seller requested I send the funds the same day. I agreed.

On Monday, April 8, I saw that a refund had been initiated. There was no explanation. The seller told me he was called out of town on business for 3 weeks and could not sell me the card. However, the PayPal payment said "pending." This means that the seller did not have the funds in his account necessary to issue the refund. The following day, he attempted to get me to cancel the order. I did not cancel until the PayPal refund went from "pending" to completed.

Today, I checked his feedback to see if he scammed anyone else and I saw that you left negative feedback. I then looked into a little more and found this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-T206-Ty...item35c6123bf4

It's the same card that we "bought"!!

- s*p*r*a*49"

Yes I was out of town for longer than 3 days and I had the money in my account. In the paypal transaction it asks if you want to refund the money and I hit yes. Paypal pays the fees they charged me for withdrawing the money he sent me and I pay the rest. It takes 2-3 days to fully process. I had more than enough in my account. I left negative feedback because his feedback was ridiculous

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by JoeyF1981

I left negative feedback because his feedback was ridiculous

How does one leave negative feedback for a buyer? This is eBay we're talking about, right?

[JoeyF1981]

Originally Posted by Eric72

How does one leave negative feedback for a buyer? This is eBay we're talking about, right?

His negative feedback was taken off. I left a follow-up comment on the feedback he left for me.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by JoeyF1981

I thought I was ready to sell that card, but I was wrong. That was my fault.

How many more of these scumbags do we have to suffer on this board? Is it so difficult to complete an ebay transaction without this kind of garbage?

[batsballsbases]

Originally Posted by calvindog

How many more of these scumbags do we have to suffer on this board? Is it so difficult to complete an ebay transaction without this kind of garbage?

Jeff,
I believe at least a bakers dozen of scumbags might be the correct number!

[rhettyeakley]

Originally Posted by JoeyF1981

yes that is me. I did in fact refund your money because I decided to hold onto the card. I refunded your money with no questions asked. If I recall you left me negative feedback accusing me of being a scammer when I refunded your money. If i was a scammer I wouldve taken your money and kept the card. I instead refunded your money asap. Ive sold many many cards with no problems at all. I thought I was ready to sell that card, but I was wrong. That was my fault.

I'm calling BS. You don't have that luxury on eBay. If you put something up for sale via auction, guess what if someone bids you don't get to say "I changed my mind." I have no idea about the accusations that have been thrown out there about you but kinda don't care once you stated the above, that is all I need to know before making the decision you aren't someone I care to do any kind of business with.
-Rhett

I seem to remember your name associated with a problem with Dan McKee, I could be wrong.

[JoeyF1981]

Originally Posted by rhettyeakley

I'm calling BS. You don't have that luxury on eBay. If you put something up for sale via auction, guess what if someone bids you don't get to say "I changed my mind." I have no idea about the accusations that have been thrown out there about you but kinda don't care once you stated the above, that is all I need to know before making the decision you aren't someone I care to do any kind of business with.
-Rhett

I seem to remember your name associated with a problem with Dan McKee, I could be wrong.

First of all the issue with dan mckee was 2 yrs ago and I have already spoken to him and apologized which he accepted.

And you can change your mind but your obviously subject to negative feedback and comments. I deserve it theres no doubt. Im not asking any of you to buy anything from me. Im here to confront kirk about his false accusations. thats all

[batsballsbases]

Originally Posted by JoeyF1981

First of all the issue with dan mckee was 2 yrs ago and I have already spoken to him and apologized which he accepted.

And you can change your mind but your obviously subject to negative feedback and comments. I deserve it theres no doubt. Im not asking any of you to buy anything from me. Im here to confront kirk about his false accusations. thats all

Joey,
very hard to come on a public forum and only confront one person that you had a bad dealing with. Where I sit it looks like you opened up a pandora's box of other people that you did something to that wasnt up to par so to speak with "DOING THE RIGHT THING" on a transaction. Maybe you can explain to me why you dont deliver the cards or items that people win. Sellers remorse gets a little old after 10 or 20 times. Yah Know.

[JoeyF1981]

Originally Posted by batsballsbases

Joey,
very hard to come on a public forum and only confront one person that you had a bad dealing with. Where I sit it looks like you opened up a pandora's box of other people that you did something to that wasnt up to par so to speak with "DOING THE RIGHT THING" on a transaction. Maybe you can explain to me why you dont deliver the cards or items that people win. Sellers remorse gets a little old after 10 or 20 times. Yah Know.

Thats only happened twice. Ive delivered every other card on ebay. I had 100% feedback before that. Ive sold a few cards to psa members in the past couple months and they all got their cards no problem

[batsballsbases]

Originally Posted by JoeyF1981

Thats only happened twice. Ive delivered every other card on ebay. I had 100% feedback before that. Ive sold a few cards to psa members in the past couple months and they all got their cards no problem

Sorry I beg to differ. If you google your name you will find that you have done this many more times before. Read your stories looks like a psa10 Jordan rookie that had "problems" with you also. or am I wrong?

[JoeyF1981]

Originally Posted by batsballsbases

Sorry I beg to differ. If you google your name you will find that you have done this many more times before. Read your stories looks like a psa10 Jordan rookie that had "problems" with you also. or am I wrong?

You are very wrong. I have never been in the possesion of a psa 10 jordan rc ever in my life. And thats one thing Im calling kirk out about. Ive admitted to what ive done. I f*cked up many times and screwed myself and my reputation. I deserve the comments im getting but the things kirk has said are criminal and Im here to call him out. But ask anyone ive sold to besides the cobb and they will all tell you Ive delivered as promised

[gnaz01]

Originally Posted by rhettyeakley

I'm calling BS. You don't have that luxury on eBay. If you put something up for sale via auction, guess what if someone bids you don't get to say "I changed my mind." I have no idea about the accusations that have been thrown out there about you but kinda don't care once you stated the above, that is all I need to know before making the decision you aren't someone I care to do any kind of business with.
-Rhett

I seem to remember your name associated with a problem with Dan McKee, I could be wrong.

I agree with Rhett here! Sounds like you pulled it back twice because you didn't like the price you got. Sounds like BS.

[rainier2004]

Originally Posted by JoeyF1981

yes that is me. I did in fact refund your money because I decided to hold onto the card. I refunded your money with no questions asked. If I recall you left me negative feedback accusing me of being a scammer when I refunded your money. If i was a scammer I wouldve taken your money and kept the card. I instead refunded your money asap. Ive sold many many cards with no problems at all. I thought I was ready to sell that card, but I was wrong. That was my fault.

Sounds scammish to me. You auctioned a card, a bidder won and paid and you said "naaaah"....I wish I could have done that when my beautiful 34G Foxx sold for 60% what I paid for it. What about Ethan, maybe he passed on another card to be able to afford yours and follow thru with his actions. Go make some deals with Adrian...

[JoeyF1981]

Originally Posted by rainier2004

I don't know ethan, but that sounds scammish to me. You auctioned a card, a bidder won and paid and you said "naaaah"....I wish I could have done that when my beautiful 34G Foxx sold for 60% what I paid for it. What about Ethan, maybe he passed on another card to be able to afford yours and follow thru with his actions. Go make some deals with Adrian...

Youre right and he might have. I f*cked up and I know that. I returned his money right away. I wasnt holding out for more money. It was a buy it now auction