FS: T206 Ty Cobb Bat Off Green Apple Sov.

[Mikehealer]

That's too bad. If this was a tough back it would sell for sure the way they are going right now.

[Shoele$$]

Originally Posted by Mikehealer

That's too bad. If this was a tough back it would sell for sure the way they are going right now.

Have you seen another with this front/back combo? If so where and what grade? I haven't been able to locate one, and it seems others haven't either. I will agree if this was an even tougher back, we would be in the $5-10K range. A member has a Cycle 460 Cobb BO in a 1 condition with a slight tear and won't even part with it for $7500......An SGC 40 EPDG (which is pretty close to the same scarcity level) just went for over $3200 a couple months ago. I'd say the premiums are already there for these tougher backs, lol. Not to mention, the SGC 40 EPDG was pretty worn around for a 40....IMO mine looks like a 5 compared to this card.

[Mick_7]

How in the world did that El PDG get a 40?

If anything this thread has shed light on the inconsistencies in grading with SGC.

The OP's card should be a 4 and the El PDG should be a 2.5 and that's being generous.

[tiger8mush]

Hi Glenn, do you have a back scan available that is the same size as the front scan you posted in post #17?

Thanks,
Rob

[Tcards-Please]

Originally Posted by tiger8mush

Hi Glenn, do you have a back scan available that is the same size as the front scan you posted in post #17?

Thanks,
Rob

Rob,

Nate provided a larger size in post #19. It is the same card that Glenn is selling. Even the stains on the back of Glenn's original post matches the one that Nate provided in #19.

r/
Frank

[Mikehealer]

Originally Posted by Shoele$$

Have you seen another with this front/back combo? If so where and what grade? I haven't been able to locate one, and it seems others haven't either. I will agree if this was an even tougher back, we would be in the $5-10K range. A member has a Cycle 460 Cobb BO in a 1 condition with a slight tear and won't even part with it for $7500......An SGC 40 EPDG (which is pretty close to the same scarcity level) just went for over $3200 a couple months ago. I'd say the premiums are already there for these tougher backs, lol. Not to mention, the SGC 40 EPDG was pretty worn around for a 40....IMO mine looks like a 5 compared to this card.

Yes, I've seen several, Levi has one on ebay that's been there for quite a while. PSA has graded 15 at 3 or better with Sovereign designated, so I'm sure they have graded quite a few more than that. Yours is a nice card, but with the crease it is only a 3 in the TPG's opinion and it's not a rare card in terms of quantity.

[Shoele$$]

Originally Posted by Mikehealer

Yes, I've seen several, Levi has one on ebay that's been there for quite a while. PSA has graded 15 at 3 or better with Sovereign designated, so I'm sure they have graded quite a few more than that. Yours is a nice card, but with the crease it is only a 3 in the TPG's opinion and it's not a rare card in terms of quantity.

So you're telling me there's 15 Sov green apples graded? I think not. PSA and SGC also doesn't designate between both Cycle backs, so does that mean there's tons of Cycle 460's of every card too? Not taking into account the Cycle 350s? Again, I think not.

[Shoele$$]

"Creases" go through the card, this card does not have a crease. Light surface wrinkles don't go through cards. It's been determined the card has most likely been soaked and pressed.

[Mikehealer]

Originally Posted by Shoele$$

So you're telling me there's 15 Sov green apples graded? I think not. PSA and SGC also doesn't designate between both Cycle backs, so does that mean there's tons of Cycle 460's of every card too? Not taking into account the Cycle 350s? Again, I think not.

No, I'm telling you there are more than 15 and obviously what you think is wrong. The bat off with a Sovereign back is only found with the "350" back, so all that are graded are Sovereign 350.

[Shoele$$]

Originally Posted by Mikehealer

No, I'm telling you there are more than 15 and obviously what you think is wrong. The bat off with a Sovereign back is only found with the "350" back, so all that are graded are Sovereign 350.

Right, but AGAIN, what YOU think is wrong because you're not taking into account the much more common Forrest Green Sov. Which is also a 350. Read up a little more

[Mikehealer]

Originally Posted by Shoele$$

Right, but AGAIN, what YOU think is wrong because you're not taking into account the much more common Forrest Green Sov. Which is also a 350. Read up a little more

I don't need to read up any more on this.
The bat off is a 350-460 subject and the Forest green is not found with the 350-460 series. The Forest green is only found with earlier series cards(150-350 and 350 only).

[srs1a]

All Cobb bat off, Sovereign 350's are apple green. SGC has 4 in their pop report, but there are more in the "no pose" bucket. I have the lone SGC-45, which sits in the "no pose" bucket in their pop report, so I'm sure aboiut that. Exactly how many are there, I don't know, but there are at least 5 graded by SGC and I would suspect a similar (or larger) number by PSA.


edited to add" Exactly correct, Mike. We were typing at the same time.