Whats Your Most Interesting Card?

CW · #1 05-28-2013, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calvindog

Chuck, for what it's worth, the cards looked good to me and I really have not much doubt about it. The peculiarity for me was the identical printing flaw in every card in those lots -- which all had been graded at the same time as well. Strange.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeanH3

Chuck - there is the missing 11th Cobb. Lot 541.

Very cool, thanks -- also interesting to see that green dot you mentioned on the WaJos. We should've probably started a new thread so this one doesn't keep getting interrupted

but I'll leave one last comment here, similar to what I just sent Peter in a PM...

I did check the images of the other cards, and none of them have bleeding into the border. You will note that none of them have any staining whatsoever. This can hardly be a coincidence. My guess is that someone associated with the factory which printed these cards was able to sneak some out the back door before they were shipped off to CJ to be inserted into boxes (something similar to what occurred with the Black Swamp find). In other words, the cards are uncirculated.

Obviously I am biased because I own one of the cards, but I don't think we should automatically assume something nefarious is going on (ie. the cards are counterfeit). It would be incredibly difficult to fake 1914 CJs, especially with the paper they used. It also seems that IF someone was trying to hide something shady, they wouldn't submit all the Cobbs at once, which would surely raise eyebrows at SGC and put the cards under more scrutiny.

Regardless, it's an interesting card!

We now resume to your regularly scheduled thread about interesting cards....

calvindog · #2 05-28-2013, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CW

Very cool, thanks -- also interesting to see that green dot you mentioned on the WaJos. We should've probably started a new thread so this one doesn't keep getting interrupted

but I'll leave one last comment here, similar to what I just sent Peter in a PM...

I did check the images of the other cards, and none of them have bleeding into the border. You will note that none of them have any staining whatsoever. This can hardly be a coincidence. My guess is that someone associated with the factory which printed these cards was able to sneak some out the back door before they were shipped off to CJ to be inserted into boxes (something similar to what occurred with the Black Swamp find). In other words, the cards are uncirculated.

Obviously I am biased because I own one of the cards, but I don't think we should automatically assume something nefarious is going on (ie. the cards are counterfeit). It would be incredibly difficult to fake 1914 CJs, especially with the paper they used. It also seems that IF someone was trying to hide something shady, they wouldn't submit all the Cobbs at once, which would surely raise eyebrows at SGC and put the cards under more scrutiny.

Regardless, it's an interesting card!

We now resume to your regularly scheduled thread about interesting cards....

Chuck, I agree with this. And in your PM when you drew the comparison to 70s uniform print defects, that also rang true. I think the initial surprise is that we're not used to seeing such a thing on prewar cards and, in particular, CJs. And also good point about them being graded together and sold together. I'd love to know what happened with this group, very frustrating that we'll never know with any certainty. Bottom line: Peter still doesn't have a CJ Cobb

CW · #3 05-28-2013, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calvindog

Bottom line: Peter still doesn't have a CJ Cobb

Sometimes when you type "LOL" you really do LOL.

This was one of those times.

(and it wasn't at Peter, it was with him)

Peter_Spaeth · #4 05-28-2013, 09:18 PM

Yep, still looking.

calvindog · #5 05-28-2013, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Yep, still looking.

I remember letting all 11 of those Cobbs slip by me...it was all on the phone via Hunt...one Cobb after another...I never thought I'd see another.

DaClyde · #6 05-29-2013, 08:46 PM

Mine would now be my 1994 Chiba Lotte Marines menko of Hensley Meulens (and attached rest of set).

http://clydes-stalecards.blogspot.co...ko-jcm-25.html

mrvster · #7 05-30-2013, 01:15 AM

and to think one of F scottys would wind up with me

Hal Kaplan · #8 06-08-2013, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CW

Very cool, thanks -- also interesting to see that green dot you mentioned on the WaJos. We should've probably started a new thread so this one doesn't keep getting interrupted

but I'll leave one last comment here, similar to what I just sent Peter in a PM...

I did check the images of the other cards, and none of them have bleeding into the border. You will note that none of them have any staining whatsoever. This can hardly be a coincidence. My guess is that someone associated with the factory which printed these cards was able to sneak some out the back door before they were shipped off to CJ to be inserted into boxes (something similar to what occurred with the Black Swamp find). In other words, the cards are uncirculated.

Obviously I am biased because I own one of the cards, but I don't think we should automatically assume something nefarious is going on (ie. the cards are counterfeit). It would be incredibly difficult to fake 1914 CJs, especially with the paper they used. It also seems that IF someone was trying to hide something shady, they wouldn't submit all the Cobbs at once, which would surely raise eyebrows at SGC and put the cards under more scrutiny.

Regardless, it's an interesting card!

We now resume to your regularly scheduled thread about interesting cards....

E145s were also issued as complete sets directly from CJ, according to the back of this advertising poster:

http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/auction/2009/1.html

I also remember an auction of one of these sets a few years ago, almost all of the cards were in extremely high grade, many the highest graded examples.

Runscott · #9 06-08-2013, 05:54 PM

The only items I own that have interesting stories behind them are photographs and equipment. But to me, this is my most interesting card:

Yankeefan51 · #10 06-08-2013, 06:14 PM

Four base hits PSA 6
Just So SGC 80
Chicago Federal League Team Issued Card only one known

Bruce Dorskind
America's Toughest Want List
bdorskind@dorskindgroup.com

Runscott · #11 06-08-2013, 06:33 PM

Wanted to add: Jamie, that campaign sticker on the back of your card is really great. That's the kind of stuff that really spices up the set.

joeadcock · #12 06-08-2013, 07:20 PM

Bruce
Can we see the Chicage Federal League Team issued card?

uffda51 · #13 06-08-2013, 07:42 PM

Got this from Joe's son Bob about 15 years ago. Pretty cool to meet Smokey Joe's relative.

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