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06-01-2013, 02:00 PM
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And I am assuming that when a photo says on the back, Reference Dept., gives a date and states Press, that the photo comes out of the newspaper archive in which the photograaphers worked. (Print on side is on holder, not the photo). Attachment 101324
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Norm Cash message to his pitchers, the day after one of his evenings on the town. "If you can hold em till the seventh, I'll be ready" Last edited by billyb; 09-08-2013 at 09:22 AM. 
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06-01-2013, 02:30 PM
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Also worth noting is that the date on the "Reference Dept." stamp is when the photo was filed, NOT when it was shot. Very often the two dates will be within a few days of each other, but especially with a photo that early, it would be rare for the file date to coincide exactly with the date of the event photographed.
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06-01-2013, 03:40 PM
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Lance,
That is great information, I thought the date on the back was the publication date. This photo came out of the Cleveland Press, and the historical Society, which stores all of VanOeyen negatives, checked on this photo and they were able to come up with a match, with reverse image, but could not find the newspaper article. But I told them to just search the date or a couple days after. I wish I had this information then. Thanks Lance, we have more photos to research and with this information, this will help us locate the newspaper articles also. Here is the photo and the distorted copy from the Historical Society that they sent for us to compare. Attachment 101328 Attachment 101330
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Norm Cash message to his pitchers, the day after one of his evenings on the town. "If you can hold em till the seventh, I'll be ready" Last edited by billyb; 09-08-2013 at 09:22 AM.
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06-01-2013, 03:49 PM
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Just keep in mind that the date the photo was shot, the publication date of the photo (if published), and the file date (literally, the date the photo was physically placed in the files) are often all different dates.
Last edited by thecatspajamas; 06-01-2013 at 03:52 PM.
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06-01-2013, 04:00 PM
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Thank You Lance, this thread has been very informative.
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06-01-2013, 04:15 PM
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Had to do some digging to find a photo that had all of the dates, but take a look at the Bobby Richardson photo below for an example. The actual photo was taken on October 8, 1961 then transmitted "over the wire" on October 9 by The AP to the receiving newspaper (in this case, the San Francisco Examiner) who ran it in their October 11 edition of the paper, filing the physical photo in their archives the next day, October 12 (with a clipping from the previous day's paper of the photo as it ran affixed to the back).
So if anything, you would want to start with the file date and then search a few days earlier for the published photo. Since it would have been all in-house work at that point, I would think you usually wouldn't have to go further than the previous day, but I guess that could vary depending on the particular paper's practices. Last edited by thecatspajamas; 06-01-2013 at 04:20 PM.
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06-01-2013, 04:47 PM
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Lance,
Thank you, Good photo by the way. You have saved us, who knows how much time, in researching. OBC, Again I apologize for jumping in, I hope you found some information from my questions as well.
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Norm Cash message to his pitchers, the day after one of his evenings on the town. "If you can hold em till the seventh, I'll be ready"
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