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In the discussion on CU, there are 132 cards in a set, but there are 2 checklists, including 1 from 133-264. I imagine this was due to Topps printing only 1 sheet of cards for this "test set" and the sheet happened to have the 1st & 2nd checklists on it.
Interesting. Thanks Rob. |
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The mini's were actually printed in Canada. These as well as the '88 Cloth sticker showed up in the Detroit area from a Canadian dealer who did many shows here. I believe both "debuted" at the Dearborn St. Martha's show put on by Bob Wimmer. I have a Mike Boddicker, whom I knew and collected at the time.
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Collecting: 1966 Topps Baseball Set Last edited by Gmrson; 06-03-2013 at 09:31 PM. |
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Here's the thread of a discussion we had on the subject last summer:
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...pps+mini+cream I'm sure AL (the OP on the thread) would've provided the link for you but he's navigating the world so I'll do it in his absence. Note in the thread that aside from the completed stat back's there were also proofs for this test release. There were cream/white blank backs, brown/tan blank backs and Al has some stat backs with red ink but no green. Print numbers that I have heard thrown around are that the complete stat backs are numbered at or around 100. Ebay seller gotjacollectibles (who I rec'd my blank backs from and still has some for sale) numbers the white/cream backs at 10 and the brown/tan backs at 5. Al's red ink only back is probably numbered at no more than 5 and is more than likely a one of a kind piece. I believe gotja is also the Allan fellow mentioned in the CU thread.
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COLLECTING BROOKLYN DODGERS & SUPERBAS Last edited by 4reals; 06-04-2013 at 09:54 AM. |
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Zach---do not have access to them in Ireland, but have this set in both regular back and blank back. The blank back are tougher and can be found in both tan and white backs. I also have the set half done in red only backs. Not sure if it can be completed that way. One of the toughest 80s sets to do, along with 82 Blackless and 88 Cloth and 84 Encased ( Head in Box)
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I hate to tell you this, but I think your search for an entire set of one color red backs has not ended. I saw some '85 Topps mini's on eBay. I emailed the seller and he indicated he has known people at O-Pee-Chee for 40 years and knows quite a bit about the set. He apparently even knew the O-Pee-Chee "archive administrator". He said they produced 90 sheets of '85 Mini's as a test set. The 90 sheets - which included 30 sheets with full color backs (each sheet containing 132 cards), 30 sheets were blank backs and 30 sheets were one color red backs. He indicated he has a full sheet of '85 mini's and this is the only full sheet as it was in their archives and used for reference purposes (presumably). He also said the remainder of the cards all came from the original 90 sheets which were all individually cut from these sheets. He seemed to know what he was talking about. ZWheat Last edited by Zach Wheat; 06-05-2013 at 12:37 PM. |
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I'm not saying those sheet numbers are inaccurate but they are surprising to hear considering the few number of blank backs that have hit the market compared to the full color stat backs. For every blank back it seems I run into 3-4 stat backs. Similarly, it's shocking for me to hear there are just as many sheets of the "red ink only" backs as the other variations. I'm having trouble wrapping my mind around that since Al's are the only one's I've ever seen. Perhaps someone has them all and is sitting on them? Of course, it all comes down to timing and accessibility, so just because my search results have been what they are doesn't mean they haven't been made available somewhere I am not exposed to. Did your contact happen to mention how many of the 30 blank back sheets were divided between tan and white card stock colors? Perhaps ask him if there were any blank back variations without naming the colors to test his credibility?
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COLLECTING BROOKLYN DODGERS & SUPERBAS Last edited by 4reals; 06-06-2013 at 08:45 AM. |
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I actually asked him in the same email if the printing quantities were the same for all 3 of the printing variations. I told him that I was surpised at his original contention that they were printed in equal numbers. He reiterated that they were indeed printed in the same quantities. I can reach out to him again. Z Wheat |
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