'85 Topps Mini's

[Zach Wheat]

I have re-phrased the question again and he quickly responded stating that he was informed there was only 1 print run for the '85 mini's and 1 type paper stock. He suggested that one of the 2 types of card stock is not legit. Can anyone check their card stock for uniformity with the other types of backs - and compare it to the printing on the fronts for legitimacy?

I know this same issues has occurred with other issues - most notably ESCO Exhibits and I have been duped prior to understanding the differences on the front of the card. Now ESCO Exhibit collectors automatically look for the 2nd type of card stock as a dead give away.

In addition, he mentioned he still has contacts at OPC and would talk to them again about this set. Send me your questions I will compile them and see if we can get some firm answers - as I am sure there are other questions of which I am not aware. Unfortunately he won't be seeing his contacts again until late summer...

ZWheat

[4reals]

Here is a scan of some of mine.




Here is a scan taken from a post of one of Al's cards from a previous thread.



Assuming your source is correct, and only one type of card stock was used, it would make make logical sense to assume the white card stock is counterfeit since the vanilla bean/tan card stock is used on the complete stat backs and the red ink only stat backs. I will pull the white backs out and look at them under my 10x magnifier to see if I notice any irregularities from the others.

[Zach Wheat]

Joe,

I would really like to see some high res scans on the front before going that route. Do you know what other OPC card stock from this era looks like? Does anyone have any other scans of the backs of cards in another OPC set so we can check card stock? Just curious.

Thanks.

[HasselhoffsCheeseburger]

Here's a regular issue 1985 OPC back.

[Rich Klein]

Who had a good amount of those 1985 minis. They always looked legit to me

Rich

[4reals]

I'm with Rich on this one, I don't think they're counterfeited. Nobody has ever had enough of them, and they aren't worth enough to take the time to do. I took a look at them side by side under my magnifier and could see no areas of concern. The rosette pattern is the same and there is solid color everywhere there should be. Another question then would be, were they possibly photocopied? Again my answer would be no. I have two team sets of the white back proofs and each one has the registration off, most noticeably the red plate which is up and to the left. This was not found on the tan backs or the stat backs. By no means am I a professional but it is my humble opinion that the white backs are legit. I, however, will let you draw your own conclusion. I'm providing scans of all variations side by side and a high res of a Pedro Guerrero white blank back per your request. Have fun!

By the way, since I do have an expendable copy of each Dodgers white back I would be willing to trade straight up for a red ink only back of any Dodger since I don't have those variations. I also need a tan back Yeager. Thanks!

[Zach Wheat]

I suspect you guys are right. I will let you know when I get more info. Tks guys.