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Old 06-10-2013, 07:22 AM
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Negro League is a proper term, not a pejorative phrase. It has no secondary meaning. The museum is called the "Negro Leagues Baseball Museum" and the players association is called the "Negro League Baseball Players Association"; nothing pejorative there. In contrast, the term "Jew" without more, as pointed out above, has been used a pejorative manner: "Jew lawyer" "Jew someone down" in a negotiation, etc. The polite term is "Jewish"; I do not know of any Jewish organization that uses the phrase "Jew" rather than "Jewish" in its name. IMO the OP was trying to grab some attention by using it.
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Old 06-10-2013, 07:45 AM
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Like many Board Members, I'm not sure whether to be offended by the title of this thread, but it most definitely got my attention.

However, the one thing that most (if not all) of us do agree on, is that the price of this item is outrageous
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Old 06-10-2013, 08:03 AM
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Old 06-10-2013, 08:22 AM
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I am both a Jew and I have a collection of cards of Jewish athletes in all sports (baseball has by far the most in my collection).

I will say the title of this thread did NOT offend me, but it sure got my interest up and i immediately looked at this thread.

As to players like Braun being not Jewish, let me tell you something about us collectors of Jewish players. We need all the players we can get!! When someone is half Jewish, no matter which half, we consider that player to be a Jew so we can put him in our collection!! Also, you hear different things from players. I have heard an interview with Braun where he said he had no problem with the Jewish community embracing him, and I heard another interview with Braun where he said he was happy to be a role model for Jewish kids (this was before the drug stuff!) and that he is Jewish.

Also, if there is not a definitive answer as to whether a player is Jewish or not, again, we will almost always take him as a Jew so we can put a card of him in our collection. I am laughing as i type this, but its true of me and a lot of Jewish collectors.

As to the item being shown, boy is that over-priced, and leaves out a ton of older really neat Jewish cards.

I have right now over 180 different Jewish atheletes in my collection, and while i try on most of them only to have one card per player, on major guys like Greenberg, Koufax, Berg, etc i do have multiples and i probably have a total of about 200 cards overall in the collection. Not a big collection, but its a fun collection and i enjoy it a lot.

By the way, as a take-off on the Jews For Jesus people, I had a great tee-shirt made up that says Jews For Jeter.
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Old 06-10-2013, 08:25 AM
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Let's all get to the crux of this.

I take no offense.

I am Jewish.

Those who sought, and seek (see a British MP just the other day referring to a "bloody Jew") to speak poorly about Jews, have implied a negativity when using the words "Jews" or "Jew".

I do not know if it is that "Jewish" sounds nicer, and so they do not use this word. or that "Jew" and "Jews" are succinct.

But the negative way in which "Jews" and "Jew" have been used in speech by idiots, usually in an attempt to steal our money or block us from attractive women, (more 100 years ago) has made many associate bad connotation with the words.

This is ridiculous. in actuality, there should be no bad connotation.
"Christians" has no bad connotation. "Hindus" has no bad connotation. "Jews" should have no bad connotation. What the hell did we ever do to anybody? all we do is contribute mind, body, and soul.

Let's keep using the terms "Jew" and "Jews", that's who we are, unless we all want to consider ourselves "Hebrews", a little biblical for 2013, or "Israeli-Americans". but that's a whole other discussion.

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Washington referred to us as the "Stock of Abraham".

Has a nice ring to it.

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I do not know of any Jewish organization that uses the phrase "Jew" rather than "Jewish" in its name. IMO the OP was trying to grab some attention by using it.
Jews for Jesus?
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JEWS IN BASEBALL would have been the appropriate title.
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