Teaching moments

[travrosty]

Originally Posted by toybulldog

What I believe you are saying is that you would actually like to see an autograph authenticated/proven real or not. PSA, JSA and others are not authenticators and do nothing to authenticate autographs. There is no proof or reasoning to the service they offer and there is no evidence that they are even performing the service/analysis as they claim. If these so-called "authentication companies" were to include there reasoning or proof in their LOA's then there would be an opportunity for a retort or evidence to the contrary (as with members on this board). Why give an opportunity for one's image to be diminished if you can get away without being challenged, tested or pushed for answers?

In some cases proof has been offered on this board...

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...rocky+marciano

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...ezzard+charles

post 121 here:
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...yfield&page=13

post 51 here:
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...lyfield&page=6

... and I can tell you there has been no quality increase in Ezzard Charles, Rocky Marciano, Mickey Walker or Evander Holyfield forgeries in the trade. Authentic autograph examples are to be had all over the net, not just here. Cop out?

Exactly right, we ask to see exemplars, and how they authetnicate, they never show, so who know what they actually do. they go unchallenged by 99 % of the collecting public. You can't expose forgeries without educating. you have to prove forgeries and prove authentic autographs, otherwise there is no authentication going on. if the forgeries are so ridiculously obvious they dont require proof, then what service was really rendered?