National Locations Announced Through 2019

T205 GB · #1 06-20-2013, 09:33 AM

Why can't they do KC, STL, or somewhere on the west coast? Atlantic city sounds like a very expensive national. Chicago is already bad enough. Baltimore is the cheapest one and best I've attended so far. Speaking travel wise

ullmandds · #2 06-20-2013, 09:36 AM

What? No St Paul, MN?!

T205 GB · #3 06-20-2013, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ullmandds

What? No St Paul, MN?!

+1. Great idea

HOF Auto Rookies · #4 06-20-2013, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ullmandds

What? No St Paul, MN?!

Ridiculous, we have a convention center, come on! lol

sycks22 · #5 06-20-2013, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ullmandds

What? No St Paul, MN?!

Would love it in the twin cities

Leon · #6 06-20-2013, 10:31 AM

I was voting for Lucas Texas.

Rich Klein · #7 06-20-2013, 10:37 AM

It is big enough and there is now a hotel adjacent so that will take care of one need.

I don't like Dallas area because too many different places and not all in walking distances and not a lot of good dining areas near enough the show,

But we would be OK

Rich

autograf · #8 06-20-2013, 10:38 AM

Wow.....I have no aspirations of Louisville although we have a great convention center, the Louisville Slugger Museum and the AAA farm club of the Cincinnati Reds....the Louisville Bats....BUT.....surprised that Baltimore got chopped. I know both times all the dealers liked Baltimore and as a participant, I could fly to BWI and train it right in to a hotel right next to the center/stadium, etc. I really enjoyed Baltimore. I like Chicago and Cleveland because of the 4.5-5.5 hour drives from Louisville but they do get kind of tiring as far as scenery goes......

Hankphenom · #9 06-20-2013, 10:46 AM

Anybody know what happened to Baltimore? Looked like it might end up in the permanent rotation for a while. Guess last year didn't go so well.

T205 GB · #10 06-20-2013, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Hankphenom

Anybody know what happened to Baltimore? Looked like it might end up in the permanent rotation for a while. Guess last year didn't go so well.

From my experience as well as word from several dealers Baltimore last yr was very good to all that attended.

Donscards · #11 06-20-2013, 10:48 AM

I would love a National in the Boston area---plenty of convention centers plus hotels---but from what I understand, The board says Boston is too expensive---Baltimore was great---but also heard there are no available dates in early August----At least AC is on the east coast---but I dont think they ever had a good National in Atlantic City---I remember around 15-20 years ago, a new fellow tried it and it was the worst ever---lines of dealers waiting hours to register etc.---Anyway excited for this years National in Chicago---I drove to Baltimore last year---flying to Chicago with a carry on for my best cards--and paying another dealer who is driving to take some other stuff. thanks, Don

wolf441 · #12 06-20-2013, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Donscards

I would love a National in the Boston area---plenty of convention centers plus hotels---but from what I understand, The board says Boston is too expensive---Baltimore was great---but also heard there are no available dates in early August----At least AC is on the east coast---but I dont think they ever had a good National in Atlantic City---I remember around 15-20 years ago, a new fellow tried it and it was the worst ever---lines of dealers waiting hours to register etc.---Anyway excited for this years National in Chicago---I drove to Baltimore last year---flying to Chicago with a carry on for my best cards--and paying another dealer who is driving to take some other stuff. thanks, Don

+1 Don, for selfish reasons. But I agree, Boston is an expensive city to stay in. It's also tough on folks coming from the left coast. I'd actually like to see a National in San Fran. I could sell my wife on the trip, see a few vineyards in Napa and then hit the show. Wins all around!

murcerfan · #13 06-20-2013, 10:50 AM

thanks for posting this info.

I'm really suprised that they chose Atlantic City again. Almost all of the dealers said that 2003 show was a disaster.

I must be the only guy who liked the AC national. Then again the craps table was very kind to me (or is it carps?

).

Exhibitman · #14 06-20-2013, 11:24 AM

I guess Detroit was booked...

g_vezina_c55 · #15 06-20-2013, 08:29 PM

Cleveland is at 1300kmfrom me... More reasonable drive than chicago..(1850km)

1300km in car is possible in 1 day so i will perhaps be at the nats in 2014

Piratedogcardshows · #16 06-20-2013, 08:36 PM

I enjoyed Baltimore and had hoped it would come back soon.Looks like Im going to Cleveland next year.I can't miss two in a row.

Julz24 · #17 06-20-2013, 08:44 PM

Wow. Terrible news. Here's to hoping 2020 comes out west.

travrosty · #18 06-20-2013, 09:03 PM

it SHOULD be in minneapolis, they have a massive convention center.

here is the list for the rest of the century, j/k but not really.

chicago,
cleveland
chicago
cleveland
chicago
cleveland
chicago
cleveland
chicago,
cleveland
chicago
cleveland
chicago
cleveland
chicago
cleveland
chicago,
cleveland
chicago
cleveland
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cleveland
chicago
cleveland
chicago,
cleveland
chicago
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Phuket, Thailand
chicago
cleveland
chicago
cleveland

ScottFandango · #19 06-21-2013, 11:11 AM

about time they accommodate the collectors from the best state in the country..NEW YORK...

nice to be able to DRIVE to a National for once, and not have to FLY...

MVSNYC · #20 06-21-2013, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ScottFandango

about time they accommodate the collectors from the best state in the country..NEW YORK...

nice to be able to DRIVE to a National for once, and not have to FLY...

Drive? Let's take a helicopter from NYC!

irishdenny · #21 06-21-2013, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Leon

I was voting for Lucas Texas.

Yep... I agree Texas would be a Brilliant choice... I'm sure Beckett would roll out the red carpet... I'd love to go to my 1st one anywhere other than their past normal sites... Although Baltimore I'm sure would of been a treat... Looks lke Chicago or AC will be my 1st

tedzan · #22 06-20-2013, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by T205 GB

......Atlantic city sounds like a very expensive national. Chicago is already bad enough. Baltimore is the cheapest one and best I've attended so far. Speaking travel wise

Andrew

100% DITTO to your comments here.

Although, I live only a 2 HR drive away from Atlantic City....I'd rather take the 2 HR train ride to Baltimore.

Pennsylvania TED Z

Jewish-collector · #23 06-20-2013, 09:47 AM

Agree with the previous posts. I'm really suprised that they chose Atlantic City again. Almost all of the dealers said that 2003 show was a disaster.

Clark7781 · #24 06-20-2013, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by tedzan

Andrew

100% DITTO to your comments here.

Although, I live only a 2 HR drive away from Atlantic City....I'd rather take the 2 HR train ride to Baltimore.

Pennsylvania TED Z

+1, but AC is only one hour for me. At least Baltimore has culture.

Paul S · #25 06-20-2013, 09:53 AM

I'm sorry I missed the past Baltimore. Would have been my first.

I could make a daily mad blast to AC from mid Lawn Island, although I'd rather train it and be in Baltimore. One thing about AC though, and this is what I intend to do, is that if you live within hog-calling distance of a casino -- and that means NY, PA, NJ, DE and the like, you can grab an early morning casino bus (cheap and free casino tokens!) and then when disembarking just walk over to the National. In the evening you just bus it back home. Then do it again the next day.

KCRfan1 · #26 06-20-2013, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by T205 GB

Why can't they do KC, STL, or somewhere on the west coast? Atlantic city sounds like a very expensive national. Chicago is already bad enough. Baltimore is the cheapest one and best I've attended so far. Speaking travel wise

I'll second that for KC, STL or the Twin Cities? All of these locations are easy to get around in and inexpensive. More $$$ for cards.

kmac32 · #27 06-20-2013, 12:12 PM

San Diego would be nice for us West Coast collectors.

Danny Smith · #28 06-20-2013, 12:15 PM

This article from sportscollectorsdaily.com sums up their considerations when selecting sites:

The National Sports Collectors Convention will return to Atlantic City, New Jersey in 2016.** A recent vote by the show’s long-time exhibitors will bring the show back to the Atlantic City Convention Center for the first time since 2003.

The facility contains 500,000 contiguous square feet of space and occupies a site of nearly 31 acres, making it one of the East Coast's largest Convention Centers. It was built in 1997 at a cost of $268 million. It was the centerpiece of a multi-billion dollar Atlantic City redevelopment plan which included The Walk, a retail and entertainment complex.

The show’s schedule is now set through 2019, barring any unforeseen developments.* Other than the venture to the New Jersey shore in three years, it will take place in either Chicago or Cleveland each summer.

The vote for 2016 was between Atlantic City and another trip to Cleveland. *Baltimore, which hosted the show in 2010 and again last year to generally positive reviews, won't be hosting again anytime soon.

Some have clamored for the show to return to a different east coast city, the west coast or south but finding a sizeable venue convention *at a reasonable cost has proven difficult.* Chicago and Cleveland are centrally located for many who attend annually and the show is welcomed.

“We have size requirements now,” NSCC Director and Co-Founder Mike Berkus told Sports Collectors Daily in 2012.* “Operating *under 325,000 square feet would mean that many exhibitors would be shut out. Vegas and Atlantic City pose challenges on diversion of attention and attendance. Philly, New York, and Boston have financial and union issues that require exhibitors to have large increases in booth fees. Anaheim, San Francisco, and Boston will not host us without a cancellation policy that would kill advance travel and planning for all concerned. They want trade shows that require 8000 to 10,000 room night guarantees or they can cancel us without recourse. We are constantly researching and negotiating as many locations as possible.”

MBMiller25 · #29 06-20-2013, 12:31 PM

I wonder if they considered Charlotte. Really nice sized city, but quite reasonable from an expense standpoint. Very nice downtown convention center that would allow for fantastic night life options.

I hate Cleveland, as there is nothing central to the CC and no real nightlife.

Jewish-collector · #30 06-20-2013, 01:10 PM

I wonder if they considered Washington, DC. The (relatively) new convention center is enormous, with plenty of transportation options, hotels, restaurants, and parking. The baseball stadium is a few subway stops away.

Buythatcard · #31 06-20-2013, 01:12 PM

Very disappointing. Baltimore was by far the best place. Wish they would get away from Chicago & Cleveland already.

They should select a different State each year. A better idea would be to have the dealers and attendees vote on a location.

Exhibitman · #32 06-20-2013, 02:10 PM

I guess they solved the "diversion of attention and attendance" issues for AC; so why not Vegas? At least I know I won't be going in'16. Rio baby!

Rich Klein · #33 06-20-2013, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Buythatcard

Very disappointing. Baltimore was by far the best place. Wish they would get away from Chicago & Cleveland already.

They should select a different State each year. A better idea would be to have the dealers and attendees vote on a location.

For those of us who value our sleep, the answer to this is no

tbob · #34 06-20-2013, 02:20 PM

"Some have clamored for the show to return to a different east coast city, the west coast or south but finding a sizeable venue convention *at a reasonable cost has proven difficult.* Chicago and Cleveland are centrally located for many who attend annually and the show is welcomed."

Centrally located? Kansas City and St. Louis are centrally located.

t206blogcom · #35 06-20-2013, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Jewish-collector

I wonder if they considered Washington, DC. The (relatively) new convention center is enormous, with plenty of transportation options, hotels, restaurants, and parking. The baseball stadium is a few subway stops away.

+1

egbeachley · #36 06-20-2013, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny Smith

*Baltimore, which hosted the show in 2010 and again last year to generally positive reviews, won't be hosting again anytime soon.
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Well that explains why they won't go to Baltimore again.

tbob · #37 06-20-2013, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by KCRfan1

I'll second that for KC, STL or the Twin Cities? All of these locations are easy to get around in and inexpensive. More $$$ for cards.

+1. No offense to Clevelanders but really??? Again next year and 2018? I love Chicago but that is also getting old. They only schedule the National when the Cubs are in town, never the Sox. Wrigley is great but the Cubs are a joke.
I know there aren't any driving forces in Dallas/Arlington anymore since Wanda Marcus passed but avoiding Dallas, Kansas City, St. Louis and the Twin Cities is ludicrous. If you are going to have one in Atlantic City, why not just have it in Vegas?
They need to shake up the membership of the committee that makes these selections

Cardboard Junkie · #38 06-20-2013, 02:20 PM

Detroit would be a "killer" show. What is the bs with chitown chitown chitown! Damn.

Dave.

bbsports · #39 06-21-2013, 11:53 AM

I was told that Baltimore was booked up on all these dates for that time of the year. I think its 2019 for the next National in Baltimore. There suppose to be an open date for a year & San Francisco would be another great place to have the National.

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