June Pick-ups

71buc · #1 06-21-2013, 06:24 PM

love that Hal Newhauser. Is it a Burke?

thecatspajamas · #2 06-22-2013, 03:03 PM

In my never-ending quest for esoteric baseball photos, I recently picked up this one of King (or Kingfish) Levinsky, Jewish fish monger turned boxer of the late 1920's and 1930's who apparently tried out for (or more likely just worked out with) the Cincinnati Reds on March 8, 1935. I'm assuming this was just a fun interlude between bouts as he had fought 4 days before in Tampa (where the Reds training camp was located), and was back in the ring again on the 27th in Dallas.

How's that for obscure? I thought it was neat and worth sharing anyway.

Scott Garner · #3 06-22-2013, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by thecatspajamas

In my never-ending quest for esoteric baseball photos, I recently picked up this one of King (or Kingfish) Levinsky, Jewish fish monger turned boxer of the late 1920's and 1930's who apparently tried out for (or more likely just worked out with) the Cincinnati Reds on March 8, 1935. I'm assuming this was just a fun interlude between bouts as he had fought 4 days before in Tampa (where the Reds training camp was located), and was back in the ring again on the 27th in Dallas.

How's that for obscure? I thought it was neat and worth sharing anyway.

Lance,
DEFINITELY obscure! Congrats!

repsher · #4 06-22-2013, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 71buc

love that Hal Newhauser. Is it a Burke?

Mike - I was thinking the same thing when I purchased it. It definitely looks like his style. The listing I bought it from didn't mention Burke and the envelope the neg was in doesn't either. Plus Burke passed away in 1948 and this is September of 1947 so I don't know how far up until his death he was still shooting.

thecatspajamas · #5 06-22-2013, 06:20 PM

Ryan, What are the dimensions of the negative, and are there any letters/numbers written along one of the edges that we can't see in the scan? Even if it was not shot by Burke, it could have been shot by George Brace. It's often hard to distinguish between the two, though as you say, that late in Burke's career, George Brace may have been taking more of the photos. (And FWIW, Burke had a heart attack in 1948, which ended his photography career, but didn't actually pass until 1951.)

Either way though, whether Burke or Brace, if it was shot by either of them it should carry a code written on the edge of the negative of "1454-A4" with "1454" being the player number code they used for Newhouser, "A" indicating American League, and "4" being the Detroit Tigers. They used these codes to indicate a certain player/team combination, but not a unique negative, so there could be (and probably are) a number of different shots of Newhouser that carry the same coding.

Example from a period print:

repsher · #6 06-23-2013, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by thecatspajamas

Ryan, What are the dimensions of the negative, and are there any letters/numbers written along one of the edges that we can't see in the scan? Even if it was not shot by Burke, it could have been shot by George Brace. It's often hard to distinguish between the two, though as you say, that late in Burke's career, George Brace may have been taking more of the photos. (And FWIW, Burke had a heart attack in 1948, which ended his photography career, but didn't actually pass until 1951.)

Either way though, whether Burke or Brace, if it was shot by either of them it should carry a code written on the edge of the negative of "1454-A4" with "1454" being the player number code they used for Newhouser, "A" indicating American League, and "4" being the Detroit Tigers. They used these codes to indicate a certain player/team combination, but not a unique negative, so there could be (and probably are) a number of different shots of Newhouser that carry the same coding.

Example from a period print:

Hi Lance - The neg is 4x5. I do have several Burke negs that are 5x7. I'm not sure if that is the size he always used?
Also, if you look in the upper left corner of the neg, what looks like a smudge is actually "41" scratched in there. But there aren't any other markings.

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