How about this Joe Louis?

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by travrosty

dave,

Steve Grad the mastermind behind joe louis authentications. gotta love him. I don't know of a guy more responsible for ______ up Joe louis autograph, maybe spence but Grad out front of the pack.

Travis, my last experience with Grad was that I presented an obvious forgery to the AH that used him, they supposedly sent it to him, and he then basically blew me off (they told me that he again looked at the autograph and still felt it was good). The buyers of PSA/DNA's services have placed Grad in a position where he simply doesn't give a shlt what anyone thinks - he gets paid the same regardless.