OT: Congrats little Timmy!

Sean · #1 07-14-2013, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by itjclarke

Pads or whoever against, these guys are all big league hitters.

As Tim himself said a couple years ago, F@CK YEAH.

novakjr · #2 07-14-2013, 05:01 AM

Congrats Timmy

I only wish he would wait until he's NOT on my bench in fantasy to do this sh!t though

Just a question for everyone. As far as modern players go, has this guy done enough to get some HOF consideration(assuming he eventually gets 10 seasons)? Obviously not slam dunk. Does he fall into that "short spurt of greatness" Koufax type category? Or does he fall a bit short and wind up in the Doc Gooden category? Or are they all in that same category, with the type of player never really having a chance at the HOF again?

Rich Klein · #3 07-14-2013, 05:29 AM

HOF consideration just in terms of years pitched to start. I think he needs 6-7more really good years to get in that discussion

novakjr · #4 07-14-2013, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Rich Klein

HOF consideration just in terms of years pitched to start. I think he needs 6-7more really good years to get in that discussion

Yeah, now that I look a little closer. Maybe Doc wasn't a good comparision. Didn't realize that he had 10 pretty nice years before the falloff.

And I keep forgetting that Sandy was only 30 when he retired. For some reason I keep thinking the great seasons were in the middle somewhere, rather than at the end, with him retiring at his peak..

barrysloate · #5 07-14-2013, 08:37 AM

Koufax won 53 games in his last two seasons. No comparison, as much as I am a big Lincecum fan.

the 'stache · #6 07-14-2013, 11:40 AM

I caught the last two innings of Tim's no no last night. His pitching performance was very encouraging as far as his future goes. His velocity is down a bit from when he won the back to back Cy Young Awards in 2008 and 2009, but his stuff is still nasty.

Tim's problem has been maddening periods of inconsistency. He's had several really good starts where he just hit a wall, and fell apart. Tonight he had batters swinging and missing all over the place. He can be a dominant pitcher again if he can continue mixing up hit pitches like he did last night. And I'm happy to say that. I really like Tim Lincecum, and I'd like to see him back on top of his game.

Sean · #7 07-14-2013, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by the 'stache

Tim's problem has been maddening periods of inconsistency. He's had several really good starts where he just hit a wall, and fell apart. Tonight he had batters swinging and missing all over the place. He can be a dominant pitcher again if he can continue mixing up hit pitches like he did last night. And I'm happy to say that. I really like Tim Lincecum, and I'd like to see him back on top of his game.

Lincecum seems to have one bad inning per outing, but that one inning is usually a really bad one. And the Giant's offense is rarely able to bail him out.

novakjr · #8 07-16-2013, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by the 'stache

Tim's problem has been maddening periods of inconsistency. He's had several really good starts where he just hit a wall, and fell apart. Tonight he had batters swinging and missing all over the place. He can be a dominant pitcher again if he can continue mixing up hit pitches like he did last night. And I'm happy to say that. I really like Tim Lincecum, and I'd like to see him back on top of his game.

From what I've seen, he seems to run into 1 of 3 problems each time. He seems to get frustrated and then falls apart..

1)10+ pitch AB's that result in a bloop single. Then he falls apart.
2)Facing the pitcher. Instead of just pitching, he starts nibbling and throwing junk, like he's trying to show him up. If it ends up in BB, he falls apart.
3)Defensive miscues, even ones that aren't technically errors. He falls apart.

As much as I like Scutaro, he's been the biggest culprit of the 3rd one. On at least 3 occasions this year, I've seen a Scutaro miscue start Timmy disaster innings.

Timmy's 2nd start of the year vs Colo, was the most notable. Scutaro throws away a ball to 2nd, trying to turn a DP, when Tulo was already safe at 2nd(scutaro does this more often than I think a MLB caliber middle infielder should), instead of just throwing to 1st to get Cuddyer. Scut's get charged with an error on the bad throw(because Tulo advanced to 3rd), but because the runner was already safe at 2nd(and you can't assume a DP), it's ruled that "both runners are safe on FC" and no "out" is applied toward ERA consideration.. Timmy got hit with 5 ER's that inning instead the 0 that it should've been(based on the scoring technicality). And that's not even taking into consideration, that had Scutaro made the appropriate play, Timmy might not have even fallen apart in the first place. Timmy follows that up that inning with 2 hits(one is a solo shot to Tulo), 1 BB and 6 K's over the next 4 innings..

Rob D. · #9 07-23-2013, 09:28 AM

Bump for performance reduction.

San Francisco IP H R ER BB K HR ERA
Lincecum (L, 5-10) 3.2 9 8 8 1 2 3 4.73

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