1952 Topps Super Set

[Zach Wheat]

No they were not included in the list above.

Z Wheat

[ALR-bishop]

This one is mentioned in the list

[SMPEP]

I totally disagree with those that claim there is a Baumholtz with light tan and Brown (and I own both "versions"); Irvin; etc.

YES, the cards look different.

BUT what is going on in this cases is NOT a variation as much as a difference in when the card came off the press. EVERY single card in this set can be found with "color" variations. This is because the first few sheets off the run got heavier inking than the end of the run. The card was not modified in anyway, it just was the first sheet through the press and got heavier color.

I urge folks not to go crazy over these new color "variations".

Cheers,
Patrick

[ALR-bishop]

Patrick---I do not disagree with you that minor color variants in the printing process are not true variations, but some collectors still accumulate them and note the differences. To each their own.

Two good examples in the 52 set are the Crandall red v orange and the Feller clear lines or hazy. Neither is really a variation, but they have had hobby recognition among some avid 52 collectors for some time.

Several of the cards in the H&G super set are of the minor color variant or stray ink dot variety. But they are recurring defects/differences and fun to run down anyway...if you have the inclination.

In any event, you have to admire the effort and dedication that went into building that set

[SMPEP]

Hey Al,

Actually, I fall in the camp that the Feller and Crandall ARE variations. The Feller is very hard to spot - but I did finally get one that does not have lines and I have one that does have lines.

The Crandall could be more subjective I suppose, but I do have a verion that is red (with a pale face) and orange (with a oranger - is that a word?) face. It's hard to tell unless you have both cards in hand though.

And I also have the Baumholtz "variation" (and others). In all of the ones I have, it is an over abdunce of ink on the "variation" card that comes from being on the first sheet in a run.

I do agree that folks are free to collect as they wish - I'm just trying to put out a caution that many of these colors variations are not a variant by design or intention, just rather based on when the card came off the run.

Personally, I love the bolder colors of those cards that came off the first sheet(s) in the run. Some of them make the card look nicer in my opinion. But I still don't call it a variation.

Cheers,
Patrick

[ALR-bishop]

Agree with you completely. I have the two Fellers. Never have been able to find what I think are two distinct Crandalls. Since I look at these as unintended print differences they don't fit my personal definition definition of a variation, but I collect print errors and variants as well if they appeal to me...even if they are no more that what Doug likes to call "glorified print dots"

[savedfrommyspokes]

The complete run of the alleged "Canadian" back cards that is included is a very impressive addition to this set.