Question about hand-cut cards and/or cut outs

[dabigyankeeman]

I see nothing wrong with re-cutting to make it look better.

[deadballfreaK]

I have cleaned up a few W cards that looked awful. They are too short or narrow now to get anything but an"A", but who cares? They look more pleasing to me and I'm not looking to sell them.

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

Agree. They should not receive a numerical grade anyway.

[Stonepony]

Not wanting to stir things up, but why the opposition to grading handcut cards? Cards graded "A" can range in visual appeal from trash to pristine. Photos/scans don't always reveal to a buyer all that's there. A grade helps I think. Should we not grade Casey Stengle All Stars, Mecca Double Folders or any other issue that the distributor meant to be manipulated? Just want to here thoughts cause some seem rather passionate in their opposition to grading hand cuts

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Stonepony

Not wanting to stir things up, but why the opposition to grading handcut cards? Cards graded "A" can range in visual appeal from trash to pristine. Photos/scans don't always reveal to a buyer all that's there. A grade helps I think. Should we not grade Casey Stengle All Stars, Mecca Double Folders or any other issue that the distributor meant to be manipulated? Just want to here thoughts cause some seem rather passionate in their opposition to grading hand cuts

I don't have an opposition to grading hand cut cards I just want the transparency of what they really are on the label. They are handcut. To not put that on the flips puts these hand cut cards in the same class as manufacturer cut cards, which is not correct. People should know that an SGC96 W514 of Joe Jackson might have been on a full strip in 2012 and then cut to be what it is in the holder, last year, not in 1920-21.

[Stonepony]

Agree! Thanks

[Zach Wheat]

Originally Posted by Leon

I don't have an opposition to grading hand cut cards I just want the transparency of what they really are on the label. They are handcut. To not put that on the flips puts these hand cut cards in the same class as manufacturer cut cards, which is not correct. People should know that an SGC96 W514 of Joe Jackson might have been on a full strip in 2012 and then cut to be what it is in the holder, last year, not in 1920-21.

Leon,

What is the solution? Would adding a "Handcut" designation on the label work? I don't have an issue either way but was curious on your view on how we solve the issue.

Z Wheat

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

Originally Posted by Zach Wheat

Leon,

What is the solution? Would adding a "Handcut" designation on the label work? I don't have an issue either way but was curious on your view on how we solve the issue.

Z Wheat

My Ruth strip card has the Authentic designation on the label. I am fine with that.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Zach Wheat

Leon,

What is the solution? Would adding a "Handcut" designation on the label work? I don't have an issue either way but was curious on your view on how we solve the issue.

Z Wheat

Yes. PSA does it already on some/most strips. That is all I want. The transparency so a newer collector doesn't find out the hard way that his hundred year old strip card was hand cut...... just the other day (but the timing is beside the point on this issue).

And I am in a minority, though some others feel this way too, but I think the PSA 8 Wagner should have "handcut" on the flip also. However, to be very honest, if I owned it today I wouldn't be hurrying to ask PSA to do it.

[Deertick]

Originally Posted by Leon

I don't have an opposition to grading hand cut cards I just want the transparency of what they really are on the label. They are handcut. To not put that on the flips puts these hand cut cards in the same class as manufacturer cut cards, which is not correct. People should know that an SGC96 W514 of Joe Jackson might have been on a full strip in 2012 and then cut to be what it is in the holder, last year, not in 1920-21.

I'm not sure if this has been discussed but.... What if a (modern) card came from an uncut sheet? Does it make a difference whether or not any cards were factory cut? (Ex. 1958 Topps vs. 1985 Topps Mini).

Someone just asked why PSA would grade these and I'm not sure of the answer.