Looking for n300 or n162 ad pieces, oddities, etc...

[barrysloate]

If in fact that N162 Kelly was cut from a poster, and not simply from a Champions album (I don't have one to see what is on the other side of the Kelly), then it would be new to the hobby. No intact N162 poster is known to me, however I have imagined that one could have existed at one time. Did you check an album to make absolutely certain the Kelly wasn't cut from it? I've never seen a poster where the advertising was on the back, so it's kind of odd. Not impossible, just unusual.

Originally Posted by barrysloate

If in fact that N162 Kelly was cut from a poster, and not simply from a Champions album (I don't have one to see what is on the other side of the Kelly), then it would be new to the hobby. No intact N162 poster is known to me, however I have imagined that one could have existed at one time. Did you check an album to make absolutely certain the Kelly wasn't cut from it? I've never seen a poster where the advertising was on the back, so it's kind of odd. Not impossible, just unusual.

The seller of the N162 Kelly cut-out indicates in his listing that the card stock is thick and comparable to that of the actual cards. I don't know if that helps at all, but that's what he indicated.

[barrysloate]

Cards cut from posters tend to be a little thinner than regular issue cards. Not exactly sure what he has.

[1880nonsports]

cut from the last page of the Goodwin Champions album.......... It is neither fantasy nor reproduction. Shamus are you refering to an N28 or some other N28 advertising piece? Top shelf banner Mr Wonka!

[JeremyW]

I believe the Kelly card is cut from the album. The back printing matches the print that is used in the album.

[barrysloate]

Since it has been confirmed the Kelly was cut from an album, its value is marginal.

There's a guy on ebay selling similar looking cards with blank backs and saying they are some sort of parallel set to the N162's that could only be redeemed through the mail. Has anyone ever heard of such a thing or have knowledge that these cards are legitimate and actually exist. Here's his response to my inquiry.

"ln 1888 Goodwin printed two sets of Champion Cigarette Cards, they consisted of 50 cards representing baseball, pedestrian, jockey, lawn tennis, etc. You could find them in Gypsy Queen & Old Judge tobacco pouches, these had Gypsy Queen & Old Judge writing on the base of the card & writing on the back. The other set (The one that l am selling) has the same picture on the front but no writing on the base or back. To purchase one of these you needed a coupon & then you could exchange it for a card that came from a Sports Card Album. The card l am selling is 125 years old, original, & 100% genuine. l am even prepared to give an undertaking that if the winning bidder can prove it is not 100% authentic, they can keep the card & get a full refund. But this wont happen because as mentioned this cigarette card is 100% authentic"

[barrysloate]

I never heard of the coupon or redemption this guy is talking about. It would be nice to see some documentation.

Regarding the authenticity of the cards cut out of albums, they are certainly authentic in the sense they were printed and issued in 1888. But they are not cards, they are not rare, and they should not sell for very much. They are cutouts from a book. Worth something, but they are not the holy grail.