I hate doing this.. Help needed.. please read

UOFLfan7 · #1 07-25-2013, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ullmandds

best of luck in getting past this tough time.

"While I do not believe that this belongs on the board, I think that we should all keep in mind that last year another forum member accepted numerous donations while going through a tough time and nobody truly questioned it."

When this person spent said $$$$ on bb cards it sure was questioned!?

I left the board for a long hiatus during that time. I remember the donations, but I must have left before people found out that he/she spent the money on baseball cards. My bad.

Leon · #2 07-25-2013, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by UOFLfan7

I left the board for a long hiatus during that time. I remember the donations, but I must have left before people found out that he/she spent the money on baseball cards. My bad.

Just to set the record straight, the person those donations were collected for back then, didn't receive one cent from any member that I am aware of. (Though members might have sent him money directly, I am not aware of it)

The monies collected on the board were all put into a fund that I took up and 100% of it was sent to the funeral home. What he did with his own money was his business. That was a very difficult situation all the way around.

Rich Klein · #3 07-25-2013, 12:04 PM

I sent him some cards of his home town team and received back some nice emails. Things have improved emotionally for him, but that whole situation was hard on so many levels. Truly a situation of 50 shades of grey

Rich

P.S. Buy my items on BST -- that would be my National spending money -- look in the 1980-present baseball area

UOFLfan7 · #4 07-25-2013, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon

Just to set the record straight, the person those donations were collected for back then, didn't receive one cent from any member that I am aware of. (Though members might have sent him money directly, I am not aware of it)

The monies collected on the board were all put into a fund that I took up and 100% of it was sent to the funeral home. What he did with his own money was his business. That was a very difficult situation all the way around.

Thank you for setting it straight. As we all are aware memories can be very deceiving, and I've never had the greatest memory in the first place. Situations like this are always very difficult as it's in human nature to want to help others but at the same time there is alway risk involved and wary of what the person receiving the donations may or may not do with the money he/she receives.

Once again, thanks Leon for setting the record straight, and I am sorry if I offended anybody with my rather ignorant and very broad statement.

Rob D. · #5 07-25-2013, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by UOFLfan7

Thank you for setting it straight. As we all are aware memories can be very deceiving, and I've never had the greatest memory in the first place. Situations like this are always very difficult as it's in human nature to want to help others but at the same time there is alway risk involved and wary of what the person receiving the donations may or may not do with the money he/she receives.

Once again, thanks Leon for setting the record straight, and I am sorry if I offended anybody with my rather ignorant and very broad statement.

To set it perfectly straight, that member did indeed receive money from at least one person on the board.

thehoodedcoder · #6 07-25-2013, 04:25 PM

if you say what you have to sell rather than asking for money you may have gotten a better response. you asked for donations, then i will send you something if you help.

um. send what? how about you post what you have for sale, then put a price on it that is fair. from a real sale you could have had money in your pocket by now.

what do you have in the way of t206. im always buying.

kevin

CharleyBrown · #7 07-25-2013, 04:58 PM

Brian,

I'd be happy to throw some work your way if you or your wife are decent writers. As long as your wife doesn't mind typing with one hand, the broken wrist shouldn't hinder her from doing the work. The pay isn't tremendous, but it could help you cover at least some of the money you need without relying on donations.

Shaun

thehoodedcoder · #8 07-25-2013, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by CharleyBrown

Brian,

I'd be happy to throw some work your way if you or your wife are decent writers. As long as your wife doesn't mind typing with one hand, the broken wrist shouldn't hinder her from doing the work. The pay isn't tremendous, but it could help you cover at least some of the money you need without relying on donations.

Shaun

do you pay full price on that or is it half pay? LOL!

but that does make an interesting point. there could be a jobs section on the forum where you can post part time or full time help positions. that would be great.

kevin

botn · #9 07-25-2013, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon

Just to set the record straight, the person those donations were collected for back then, didn't receive one cent from any member that I am aware of. (Though members might have sent him money directly, I am not aware of it)

The monies collected on the board were all put into a fund that I took up and 100% of it was sent to the funeral home. What he did with his own money was his business. That was a very difficult situation all the way around.

Well the person in question did not have to directly receive one cent but by the board paying for his obligation it allowed him to use "his" money to continue buying baseball cards instead of covering the obligation first. While I do not envy his circumstances, he was enriched by the board anyway you look at it.

Leon · #10 07-25-2013, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by botn

Well the person in question did not have to directly receive one cent but by the board paying for his obligation it allowed him to use "his" money to continue buying baseball cards instead of covering the obligation first. While I do not envy his circumstances, he was enriched by the board anyway you look at it.

The board did a good deed for a collector that has/had more issues than most of us. After the poop went down there were less than a handful that retracted their support. And there were something like 140+ donations. That being said I don't disagree with you. As I said, I think it was a very difficult situation. It is one of the most difficult I have had to deal with on the board in over 10 years.

Wymers Auction · #11 07-25-2013, 05:57 PM

When you get the BST listing finished remember to add a link to this thread. Sorry about your circumstances, I have been in your shoes.

Peter_Spaeth · #12 07-25-2013, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon

The board did a good deed for a collector that has/had more issues than most of us. After the poop went down there were less than a handful that retracted their support. And there were something like 140+ donations. That being said I don't disagree with you. As I said, I think it was a very difficult situation. It is one of the most difficult I have had to deal with on the board in over 10 years.

And he showed his gratitude by asking that his membership be deleted, no?

botn · #13 07-25-2013, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon

The board did a good deed for a collector that has/had more issues than most of us. After the poop went down there were less than a handful that retracted their support. And there were something like 140+ donations. That being said I don't disagree with you. As I said, I think it was a very difficult situation. It is one of the most difficult I have had to deal with on the board in over 10 years.

Not taking anything away from the generosity of the board or saying 140 people were necessarily wrong. Though I feel for his circumstances, let's not sugar coat it and spin it. He was relieved of paying an expense because of the goodness of others and in turn used "his" money that would have otherwise gone to pay that expense, to buy baseball cards. Your post made it sound like he did not reap some financial benefit because he did not get any of the money. Paying the obligation is the same thing as giving him the money directly.

Texxxx · #14 07-25-2013, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by botn

Not taking anything away from the generosity of the board or saying 140 people were necessarily wrong. Though I feel for his circumstances, let's not sugar coat it and spin it. He was relieved of paying an expense because of the goodness of others and in turn used "his" money that would have otherwise gone to pay that expense, to buy baseball cards. Your post made it sound like he did not reap some financial benefit because he did not get any of the money. Paying the obligation is the same thing as giving him the money directly.

+1

#15 07-25-2013, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon

The board did a good deed for a collector that has/had more issues than most of us. After the poop went down there were less than a handful that retracted their support. And there were something like 140+ donations. That being said I don't disagree with you. As I said, I think it was a very difficult situation. It is one of the most difficult I have had to deal with on the board in over 10 years.

I wasn't around at the time, but it seems reasonable to assume that the outpouring of support and goodwill for that member may have set a precedent that could lead to this type of situation. This takes nothing away from those who gave then, may choose to do so now, or from this particular members situation. However, having said that, I find it odd that someone with the access to even post on this board would ask for donations before exhausting every possible means available to them to make ends meet, including selling whatever assets they may have.

#16 07-25-2013, 07:55 PM

I am very surprised by some of the mean-spirited responses on this thread. While putting up a thread like this is not ideally the best idea. It takes alot of guts to put yourself out there and ask for help. If some of you don't agree with his approach, then don't help and leave it at that. Making nasty comments and humiliating the guy is unwarranted and classless. I'd like to think this board is better than that.

SushiX37 · #17 07-25-2013, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by NewEnglandBaseBallist

I am very surprised by some of the mean-spirited responses on this thread. While putting up a thread like this is not ideally the best idea. It takes alot of guts to put yourself out there and ask for help. If some of you don't agree with his approach, then don't help and leave it at that. Making nasty comments and humiliating the guy is unwarranted and classless. I'd like to think this board is better than that.

With all due respect, this isn't the place for a request like that. That's just my opinion. No offense meant.

Rich

Rob D. · #18 07-25-2013, 08:16 PM

Just to be clear on the subject of the previous member who received a monetary gift from the board: I wasn't criticizing him in any way. I feel that if you give someone a gift, it becomes theirs. You don't retain the right to dictate how the money is used or to play Monday morning quarterback after the gifting has been done.

There simply was some information posted in this thread that implied the member hadn't received any money directly. I attempted to correct that misinformation.

As far as the recipient asking that his membership be deleted, go back and read the thread and ask yourself if you blame him one bit. That period of time was not a good one in Net54 history.

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