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Old 08-08-2013, 04:24 PM
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The percentage bid activity with that seller just doesn't look like shilling.

The original three were 4, 6 and 39 percent. Shill accounts are usually well over 90 percent.

Retractions as a way to interfere or to find a reserve or someone elses high bid seems more likely to me. It's not something I'd be bothered with, but it would be easy to make an "obvious mistake" sort of bid, then retract claiming a typo. Of course the failure of that tactic is that you'd never know what snipe bids were in place. I'm not sure knowing the current maximum of an early bidder would be all that useful.

For reserves I usually just ask if I'm really interested but not sure just how much something will be. Some sellers will tell, some won't. I usually did, once it's reached, it's not a secret anyway.
And there aren't any cards I can afford where knowing someone elses bid would change mine. I have a pretty good idea of which ones will be more than I can spend.

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Old 08-08-2013, 05:38 PM
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I don't think they are shill accounts either, but I could certainly see a consignor bidding to find out how high someone else is, then retracting once he knows.
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Old 08-08-2013, 05:41 PM
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I can think of legitimate reasons to retract a bid (a seller posts a picture with 7 cards, but is only selling 1 in the lot, and the bidder thought it had all 7 when they bid for example).

But I cannot come up with a single plausible explanation why a bidder would have two retractions on the same item. This is something Ebay should not allow.

I'll hold my breathe while I wait for this change.

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Old 08-08-2013, 05:44 PM
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Retractions on bids for Mickey Mantle cards? Could it be .... Adrian ....?
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Old 08-08-2013, 06:01 PM
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As a seller, bid retractions within the last few hours of an auction really annoy me. But what really irks me, are the winning bidders who contact me after they won and say that they decided they don't want the item.

After all these years of selling on eBay, I still don't know a quick way to check out how many retractions a bidder has. Can someone tell me?
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