Ruth, Cobb, Young Cut Signatures

[jhs5120]

I'm new to pre-war autographs, but this is what I saw:

Besides the same piece of note paper!

The Ruth I immediately skipped over, that "B" looks horrendous and the "be" looked forced.

"Ty" looks really bad, I don't like the flow, slant or seperation of any of the pen marks and the "C" looks way to slow.

I'll be honest, I don't know much about Cy Young and I'm sure that one would have given me trouble.

The Wagner looks too slow and forced to me.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by jhs5120

I'm new to pre-war autographs, but this is what I saw:

Besides the same piece of note paper!

The Ruth I immediately skipped over, that "B" looks horrendous and the "be" looked forced.

"Ty" looks really bad, I don't like the flow, slant or seperation of any of the pen marks and the "C" looks way to slow.

I'll be honest, I don't know much about Cy Young and I'm sure that one would have given me trouble.

The Wagner looks too slow and forced to me.

I was thinking the same... that Cy Young would certainly fool a lot of people (myself included), as is the best effort of the four.

[Runscott]

The Cy Young stands out most clearly to me as bad, for the same reasons I gave in a discussion on Cy Young autographs over a year ago - I'll have to go dig up that thread to verify, but it appears to be the same forger.

[perezfan]

Scott.... If you can dig it out, that would be great... thx.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Scott.... If you can dig it out, that would be great... thx.

Mark, I found the old thread. It's similar, but this autograph actually looks better than the one in the old thread. In the old thread the tops of the 'u' and 'n' in 'Young' are rounded.

Cy Young index card

[perezfan]

Ok- thanks Scott...

Interesting that most sold for 40 - 50% of what you'd see legit examples realizing at auction. Cobb and Johnson went higher than that, but otherwise it was consistent across the board. Too bad

[Scott Garner]

Originally Posted by perezfan

I was thinking the same... that Cy Young would certainly fool a lot of people (myself included), as is the best effort of the four.

I agree as well. This looks like a later version of "Cy", FWIW.
Presented with the other autographs it must be a pretty good fake...

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Scott Garner

I agree as well. This looks like a later version of "Cy", FWIW.
Presented with the other autographs it must be a pretty good fake...

Does anyone have a 'Cy Young' cut or piece of paper like this with no other information (dates, etc.) that they are certain is 'real'?