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Old 08-14-2013, 09:56 AM
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Bob's company also hosts my auctions, and I find him completely trustworthy.

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Old 08-14-2013, 09:59 AM
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Bob's company also hosts my auctions, and I find him completely trustworthy.

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Then maybe he should get his eyes fixed? Or stop lying about the Legendary scans that everyone with working eyes can see were manipulated in order to take away wrinkles and stains?
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Old 08-14-2013, 10:05 AM
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Compare, if you will, scans of the CJ Cobb now in Al's auction with one in Legendary a couple of years back. Hint Legendary's is the brighter one.
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obviously not the same cobb...but...the brightness of legendary's scans is downright off-putting. In this case the bright cobb looks ridiculous...next to the more accurate scan.
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Old 08-14-2013, 10:10 AM
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That's not the same card, is it?

Edited to add: whew. And I agree with Pete, that Legendary scan is insane. Why not just make the scans completely white to ensure that no staining or creases can be seen?
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Old 08-14-2013, 10:15 AM
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That's not the same card, is it?

Edited to add: whew. And I agree with Pete, that Legendary scan is insane. Why not just make the scans completely white to ensure that no staining or creases can be seen?
In this day and age a scan of the flip might be enough.
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Old 08-14-2013, 10:17 AM
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In this day and age a scan of the flip might be enough.
Please don't give Doug any ideas.

Edited to add: maybe the gypsies who stole Lionel Carter's cards will start an auction company....?
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Old 08-14-2013, 10:24 AM
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in the legendary cobb scan...somehow they managed to transfer the normal CJ staining from the cobb card... to the Flip...Amazing Magic!!!!
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Compare, if you will, scans of the CJ Cobb now in Al's auction with one in Legendary a couple of years back. Hint Legendary's is the brighter one.
Now this card is IMO a great example of scam, er, scan manipulation. You don't get a flip like that from scanning. The flip is roached because of extensive UV light exposure, likely from fluorescent lighting. I've had the same thing happen with SGC flips on items displayed in my office. The card itself likely shows fading as well. But jack up the contrast and add intensity of color and flash to the scan and it boosts the red.
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this is all bringing back bad memories of that SCP(?) photo -
where the item actually looked like it was chewed by a dog, while the auction scan looked impeccable.

I believe that was a "wonder-scan" explanation too.
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Default bad scanner...
that has to be the worst argument i have ever heard..a bad/poor quality scanner..

we are talking about Million dollar companies, some near BILLION dollar companies, and they use a cheap scanner?????

DONT THINK SO....they use VERY EXPENSIVE EQUIPMENT as SCANS are the lifeblood of their business...Scanners so good they can make any enhancements possible...
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that has to be the worst argument i have ever heard..a bad/poor quality scanner..

we are talking about Million dollar companies, some near BILLION dollar companies, and they use a cheap scanner?????

DONT THINK SO....they use VERY EXPENSIVE EQUIPMENT as SCANS are the lifeblood of their business...Scanners so good they can make any enhancements possible...
I visited the Mastro offices in 2004 or 2005 and was shocked at how stuff was just laying around...it was a very secure building, but seemed like a pretty messy office environment...none of the equipment looked like it was industrial or anything special. Of course that was 8 or 9 years ago now...
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that has to be the worst argument i have ever heard..a bad/poor quality scanner..

we are talking about Million dollar companies, some near BILLION dollar companies, and they use a cheap scanner?????

DONT THINK SO....they use VERY EXPENSIVE EQUIPMENT as SCANS are the lifeblood of their business...Scanners so good they can make any enhancements possible...
You don't even need an expensive scanner. A good scanner, with the proper lighting and scanning element, will produce great pictures. I'm using an eight year old Canon Canoscan 8400F, and I can get beautiful scans like this:



I use Photoshop, but most of what I'm doing is reducing image size (I scan at 400 dpi then reduce down), cropping, and then some very minor level adjusting. If I can get accurate scans, they sure as hell can do the same on much more expensive equipment. There's no excuse for auction houses to be posting pictures that aren't accurate representations of what they are selling. None.
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