Vintage All Games Season Ticket Pass

[thecatspajamas]

How much did you sell the 1952 one for?

My experience with these is that the "value" (or at least, the price a collector will pay) tends to be all over the board. Some guys try to collect a "run" of passes, one for each year for each league. Others only want a specific year as a tie-in piece for some project they are working on. If the pass was issued to someone well-known, or if you have the original leather sheath that many of these were issued with, it can also add to the value.

I've had one for a little-known sports writer starting at $9.95 not draw a bid (think it was more recent than yours though), and I've gotten $150+ for ones issued to Joe DiMaggio, with others hitting somewhere in between, so there's a pretty good spread there.

Just my personal experience, when selling them as "auction" items. I have no idea what you're referring to with the PSA question, and have never submitted any to them, so I'll have to let others tackle that one and/or add their own experiences.

[mr2686]

There are people that collect these in place of hard to find ticket stubs from famous games (a player gets his 500th hr, 3000th hit, etc). If the pass is from that same year and the same league, then it could have been used as a ticket for that game. That would jack up the price on the pass by a good margin, so it depends on the year as well as who's pass it was. Hope that helps.

[stoogeco]

When PSA grades these, they put on their holder examples of top games of that year, I'm guessing. So it would be Clemente's 3000th hit, Killebrew 500 HR, etc. I guess that is the draw. I've seen these things selling on the Bay for $2000. I had no idea that they were so much. Win some lose some.

[Rob D.]

Having bought and sold these on and off for the past 20 years, the $2,000 figure really surprises me.

[thecatspajamas]

Originally Posted by stoogeco

When PSA grades these, they put on their holder examples of top games of that year, I'm guessing. So it would be Clemente's 3000th hit, Killebrew 500 HR, etc. I guess that is the draw. I've seen these things selling on the Bay for $2000. I had no idea that they were so much. Win some lose some.

You've actually seen them sell for $2k, or you've seen someone asking that for them? I would be very surprised it they've actually sold for that price unless they were very early or something rarer than the basic AL or NL season pass. It wouldn't be the first time that I've been surprised, but if that's the case, then I've clearly been doing something wrong in the marketing department

[Scott Garner]

Originally Posted by stoogeco

When PSA grades these, they put on their holder examples of top games of that year, I'm guessing. So it would be Clemente's 3000th hit, Killebrew 500 HR, etc. I guess that is the draw. I've seen these things selling on the Bay for $2000. I had no idea that they were so much. Win some lose some.

FYI, I've heard that the customer that submits these passes to PSA typically gives them the basic info that they would like to be included on the capsule slug. PSA cross-checks the info at their end.

IMHO, it's a sham that an American League pass would be viewed as a ticket to some specific event unless there was a newspaper story supporting that the specific pass patron attended the specific event.

Just another BS PSA scam. It dilutes the importance of an actual true ticket to a historic event in baseball history.

[mr2686]

Originally Posted by Scott Garner

FYI, I've heard that the customer that submits these passes to PSA typically gives them the basic info that they would like to be included on the capsule slug. PSA cross-checks the info at their end.

IMHO, it's a sham that an American League pass would be viewed as a ticket to some specific event unless there was a newspaper story supporting that the specific pass patron attended the specific event.

Just another BS PSA scam. It dilutes the importance of an actual true ticket to a historic event in baseball history.

Scott, I agree with you 100 percent. The good thing about those passes though is that they are nice for a display for events that don't have many tickets. I'm thinking "the shot heard round the world", or Gehrig's farewell speech, etc. More representative that it "could" have been used...much like an unused real game ticket.

[stoogeco]

I've got one left. I'll see PSA tomorrow at the East Coast National White Plains show and tell them what to put on the ticket. It sure seems like it minimizes the value of the actual ticket to the game if these things are selling for so high.

[Rob D.]

Originally Posted by stoogeco

I've got one left. I'll see PSA tomorrow at the East Coast National White Plains show and tell them what to put on the ticket. It sure seems like it minimizes the value of the actual ticket to the game if these things are selling for so high.

Again, there has been feedback in this thread expressing surprise at the thought of these selling for four figures on a regular basis. And even if they are, I don't think the prices of tickets issued for milestone games are diminished.

As an Indians collector, the choice between buying a ticket stub to Bob Feller's opening-day no-hitter vs. a 1940 season pass is a no-brainer. And if I heard that a season pass had sold for, say, $1,500, that certainly wouldn't influence me to pay less for the actual ticket stub. Heck, if anything, it likely would drive up the price. But that's a big "if."

I think the prices of season passes and ticket stubs to milestone games are independent of each other. Other ticket collectors might feel differently.

[Scott Garner]

Originally Posted by mr2686

Scott, I agree with you 100 percent. The good thing about those passes though is that they are nice for a display for events that don't have many tickets. I'm thinking "the shot heard round the world", or Gehrig's farewell speech, etc. More representative that it "could" have been used...much like an unused real game ticket.

Mike,
I do agree with what you are saying here.

Frankly though, I'm not surprised in the least that PSA would be more than happy to do anything that would make them money throwing a slab around anything.