You spotted a fake, had your seizure,and I learned nothing.

[Texxxx]

I agree with Bill. Just jump in and ask. Not many here that want be glad to help. Some times though you will just not totally understand until you have put one in your hands and see a real one in person. Then a light goes off and it's obvious. I would suggest making some shows and just looking at all the cards you can in person.

[Runscott]

It may seem to the OP like not enough info has been posted, but most of us do not try to educate everyone from square one on each and every post. Just ask for specifics and you won't be ignored.

[drcy]

Sometimes when I explain things I worry I've insulted peoples' intelligence.

It's okay to ask. Only a boor would brush you off. Not to suggest there aren't boors on this board, but there are more who are happy to help.

No one was born with baseball card fake knowledge. Even the most seasoned expert started at the level of dumb.

[thehoodedcoder]

Originally Posted by Runscott

It may seem to the OP like not enough info has been posted, but most of us do not try to educate everyone from square one on each and every post. Just ask for specifics and you won't be ignored.

+1

[Stonepony]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Runscott
It may seem to the OP like not enough info has been posted, but most of us do not try to educate everyone from square one on each and every post. Just ask for specifics and you won't be ignored.

No need for square one education on every post and its clear everyone here is helpful. My point was if you out a bad card or auto , tell us why... Or not I guess.
Just my 2 cents. Thanks

[glchen]

One of the biggest reasons to say fake is if it were a card worth several thousands of dollars or more, then seller would have had the card authenticated by a reputable TPG. So if they didn't, you should already come into it very suspicious. In addition, you look at the seller feedbacks. If the feedback # is very low, then you are even more suspicious. Then you look at what else the seller is selling. If this is the only card they are selling, or all of the cards that they selling are known to have been reprinted or counterfeited many times, it's another sign that you should avoid the sale. So basically, you can have all of the above without even really studying a scan of the card, and know that it's probably a fake. However, if the card is sold with a bunch of other cards that are authentic, then the card is worth studying more because there's a lot better chance. For example, if a Babe Ruth strip card is sold at the same time as a bunch of other commons from the same set, then there's a better chance that it's authentic.

[the 'stache]

Originally Posted by glchen

One of the biggest reasons to say fake is if it were a card worth several thousands of dollars or more, then seller would have had the card authenticated by a reputable TPG. So if they didn't, you should already come into it very suspicious. In addition, you look at the seller feedbacks. If the feedback # is very low, then you are even more suspicious. Then you look at what else the seller is selling. If this is the only card they are selling, or all of the cards that they selling are known to have been reprinted or counterfeited many times, it's another sign that you should avoid the sale. So basically, you can have all of the above without even really studying a scan of the card, and know that it's probably a fake. However, if the card is sold with a bunch of other cards that are authentic, then the card is worth studying more because there's a lot better chance. For example, if a Babe Ruth strip card is sold at the same time as a bunch of other commons from the same set, then there's a better chance that it's authentic.

Excellent post, Gary.

[Stonepony]

Ok, thanks all image.jpg

[CaramelMan]

As another new guy, I don't know if I can write this but, you are coming across as a real wise ass, I don't think that is a way to garner more help in the future...

[thehoodedcoder]

Originally Posted by Stonepony

Ok, thanks all Attachment 110628

this image is hilarious. i have been laughing for the last 10 minutes.

kevin

[Rickyy]

Net 54 archive folder is very helpful for new members and old...gives you links and tips for searching for answers to your questions...by keywords and titles...I use it all the time. Ricky Y

[D.P.Johnson]

A lot of good responses in this thread...Thanks all...

[ullmandds]

Or...on the other hand...there is an archive which will contain ad nauseum the answer to almost any question any of you may have regarding detecting fakes...counterfeits...as well as any other question regarding vintage cards...etc...all you have to do is a little searching and all of your dreams will come true.

IT took many of us decades to accumulate our knowledge base...and it gets quite tiresome(as there are soooooo many fake cards out there) to go over the obvious reasons each and every time!

Use the search/archive functions!!!!

[Leon]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

Or...on the other hand...there is an archive which will contain ad nauseum the answer to almost any question any of you may have regarding detecting fakes...counterfeits...as well as any other question regarding vintage cards...etc...all you have to do is a little searching and all of your dreams will come true.

IT took many of us decades to accumulate our knowledge base...and it gets quite tiresome(as there are soooooo many fake cards out there) to go over the obvious reasons each and every time!

Use the search/archive functions!!!!

Good points Peter. The Archives section does contain a lot of good info about sets. And right next to that section is one on Detecting Alterations and Reprints. There is a lot of good info in those two places and I think many times people don't even know they are there. It is the row of icons at the top of every page, and it's the 2 of them on the far right. Happy collecting....

[the 'stache]

Originally Posted by Texxxx

I agree with Bill. Just jump in and ask. Not many here that want be glad to help. Some times though you will just not totally understand until you have put one in your hands and see a real one in person. Then a light goes off and it's obvious. I would suggest making some shows and just looking at all the cards you can in person.

Bruce is right. Speaking metaphorically, you can learn all there is to know about swimming from reading books, and watching videos. But until you've jumped into a pool, and the water is over your head, you don't have the first hand experience that is so vitally necessary.