E107 McCarthy

[terjung]

Originally Posted by shammus

I think there are eight Type 2s currently known with the Waddell being the most recently discovered. Brian, I could be missing one though?? I'm also somewhat skepical about one of the other cards too. So this McCarthy would hypothetically be #9.

I was actually using your article from Old Cardboard to come up with the eight and then adding Waddell and McCarthy to make 9 and 10.

ETA: I just noticed that your article doesn't have a #6. So, you look to be correct. I simply looked at the last number and didn't physically count them until trying to make a list.

Old Cardboard (Issue #4, Summer 2005)
E107 Type 2s
(1) Ed Delahanty
(2) Jack Doyle
(3) Wee Willie Keeler
(4) Nap Lajoie
(5) Tommy Leach
(6)
(7) Socks Seybold
(8) Fred Tenney

Recently added:
Rube Waddell

Potentially added:
Jack McCarthy

[Cat]

Wasn't it more common for the typesetter to eliminate the space but add the comma to separate name/position/team on the type IIs, while the type I typesetter would leave a space but eliminate the comma when fitting the caption was a challenge?

[shammus]

Originally Posted by terjung

I was actually using your article from Old Cardboard to come up with the eight and then adding Waddell and McCarthy to make 9 and 10.

ETA: I just noticed that your article doesn't have a #6. So, you look to be correct. I simply looked at the last number and didn't physically count them until trying to make a list.

Old Cardboard (Issue #4, Summer 2005)
E107 Type 2s
(1) Ed Delahanty
(2) Jack Doyle
(3) Wee Willie Keeler
(4) Nap Lajoie
(5) Tommy Leach
(6)
(7) Socks Seybold
(8) Fred Tenney

Recently added:
Rube Waddell

Potentially added:
Jack McCarthy

Had a chance to have a quick look at my old article this morning. It says towards the beginning of the article that there are 7 Type 2s. I believe I started the writing the article back in 2004, so this article simply may have predated the Waddell being added to the actual checklist.

But I did notice the printing error in the chart. Looks like they just skipped #6 and went straight to Seybold at #7. There is still no mention of the Waddell being a Type 2 in the chart either. Tenney is the final Type 2 listed, but he should be #7 not #8. Waddell, when he was added, became the 8th and then if McCarthy or any others are added, that would be the 9th.

[terjung]

I had a bit of an epiphany with regard to the E107s – specifically as it relates to Type 1 and Type 2 variations. I know there has been discussion as to where the Type 2s came from (such as an advertising display), but unfortunately I don’t have any new information to share on that front. I do, however, feel that I have figured out some decisive characteristics common to all Type 2s – beyond just the hand cut borders and the thicker stock. In so doing, I feel confident in stating that the E107 McCarthy that was the focus of this thread is NOT a Type 2 and does NOT need to be added to the checklist. Similarly, it is worth mentioning that the E107 Lajoie in the current Heritage Auctions catalog, which is listed as a Type 1, is in fact a Type 2, in my opinion.

[Bicem]

Terjung sighting!