Joseph M Pankiewicz, you are a disgrace to this hobby!

[Peter_Spaeth]

Dan, yours for the asking.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=321179871436

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Dan, yours for the asking.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=321179871436

I am starting to more understand why some companies might not want to advertise where many of their customers are (here).

Has anyone contacted the seller gregbussineau about the SGC version being offered?

[D.P.Johnson]

Originally Posted by Gobucsmagic74

Has anyone contacted the seller gregbussineau about the SGC version being offered?

Also, does anyone know who the original purchaser of the PSA card was???

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by D.P.Johnson

Also, does anyone know who the original purchaser of the PSA card was???

Last I checked auction houses don't tell who won their cards.

[D.P.Johnson]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Last I checked auction houses don't tell who won their cards.

I was able to figure out who won the other altered Gehrigs...

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Gobucsmagic74

Has anyone contacted the seller gregbussineau about the SGC version being offered?

Greg has been in the card business since the 80s, I believe. I am sure he can form his own judgments.

[D.P.Johnson]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Greg has been in the card business since the 80s, I believe. I am sure he can form his own judgments.

I guess now would be a good time for Greg to accept a low-ball offer on the card...I mean, I hope he wouldn't knowlingly sell an altered item on ebay...

[Cardboard Junkie]

40K for a trimmed iron horse........2.8 mil for a trimmed wagz.....I just can't believe the tpg's don't KNOW these cards are trimmed! There is something fishy in Denmark! Dave. ps The silence of the tpg's and of certain members here is deafening, and speaks volumes.

[T206Collector]

Why does the card look more heavily cut on the back of the "flashing" Gehrigs than the front? It's because the back scan of the SGC version is slightly smaller than the back scan of the PSA version. That's why the lettering moves a little, too.

While I find all of the evidence of cleaning/brightening persuasive, let's be a little cautious about relying on two scans of purportedly the same card under different conditions.

My guess is that SGC did not miss an obvious trim on the Gehrig. For instance, the SGC insert appears to fit snugly -- more so than the PSA holder does.

I took the same back scan of the SGC Gehrig, and then magnified one slightly below. Note how the eye picks up the difference in the bottom border much more easily than anything else.

[atx840]

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by atx840

I am guessing that you are saying the only thing changing are the borders, but the letters also change in size/shape, particularly as you get closer to the bottom of the card. This is the same card, but they are not the same size scan, obviously; not the same scanner.

I'm going to stick with my vote that SGC didn't miss a trim. Again, why is the PSA version loose in the slab, but the SGC version is snug? Did SGC miss a two-border trim so badly that they decided to also manufacture a smaller insert for this 1934 Goudey?

Originally Posted by D.P.Johnson

I guess now would be a good time for Greg to accept a low-ball offer on the card...I mean, I hope he wouldn't knowlingly sell an altered item on ebay...

That was kind of what I was getting at.

[Iron Horse]

It's sad to see this crap. I hope the people behind this crap are fined and or jailed. It is ruining the hobby. Someone took a beautiful Gehrig card and ruined it for $$$$. Who knows what % of high grade cards out there are in the same boat. If we don't have people doing this amazing detective work no one would even know. Well, most will not know.
It truly saddens me to see this crap.
I am sure there are people on this board that can possibly bring this up to the proper authorities i hope.
Greed, greed and more greed

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Iron Horse

It's sad to see this crap. I hope the people behind this crap are fined and or jailed. It is ruining the hobby. Someone took a beautiful Gehrig card and ruined it for $$$$. Who knows what % of high grade cards out there are in the same boat. If we don't have people doing this amazing detective work no one would even know. Well, most will not know.
It truly saddens me to see this crap.
I am sure there are people on this board that can possibly bring this up to the proper authorities i hope.
Greed, greed and more greed

The authorities read this board. Some of these things are very difficult if not impossible to prosecute. It's too bad too.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Iron Horse

Who knows what % of high grade cards out there are in the same boat.

Or midgrade cards, or the cards in YOUR collection

[atx840]

Originally Posted by Gobucsmagic74

Has anyone contacted the seller gregbussineau about the SGC version being offered?

Yes.

Makes me re-think this guy.

[WhenItWasAHobby]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Dan, yours for the asking.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=321179871436

Thanks for the info Peter.

Actually someone just informed me that:

Sold at

Memorylane (id #20470) 5/6/11..

then sold Goodwinandco (id #23561) 6/21/12 for $7,299.46.

What's still not known is who was the buyer from Goodwin and submitter to SGC since it's possible that its currently a consignment item.