@1921 Lefty Grove Photo

[nolemmings]

How is the pre-1925 hat different than the 1925-28 hat?

Okkonen's site is down, and I came to rely on it so much that I put his book in storage, so I can't look it up right now, but my recollection is that the caps are the same 1921-1926 (at least)--otherwise we could use that as the distinguishing characteristic without need of looking at the socks.

If the caps are the same from 1921-1926 then the Maynard Draper photo is by no means dispositive.

[RCMcKenzie]

The photo is stamped "Mar 23 1926", so I'm thinking with the hat and socks match from the Maynard book, that the stamp is probably a fair indication of it's age. I could still change my mind if y'all found more evidence to the contrary.

[leftygrove10]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

How is the pre-1925 hat different than the 1925-28 hat?

Okkonen's site is down, and I came to rely on it so much that I put his book in storage, so I can't look it up right now, but my recollection is that the caps are the same 1921-1926 (at least)--otherwise we could use that as the distinguishing characteristic without need of looking at the socks.

If the caps are the same from 1921-1926 then the Maynard Draper photo is by no means dispositive.

Lefty played for Martinsburg in 1920. He played for Baltimore from 1920 to 1924. He played for Philadelphia from 1925 to 1933. Since he started playing in Philadelphia in 1925, I haven't been concerned about what the Philadelphia uniform looked like before that. I guess one could argue that he might have been wearing 1924 left-overs in spring training of 1925.

[leftygrove10]

Here is the 1925 uniform.

[leftygrove10]

Here is the 1926 uniform.

[leftygrove10]

Here is the 1927 uniform.

[leftygrove10]

Here is the 1928 uniform. Notice that the elephant on the jersey has been replaced with the A, but the hat is still the same as 1927.

[leftygrove10]

Here is the 1929 uniform. Notice the change in the hat.