Hauls of Shame - Who is Peter Nash?

[D.P.Johnson]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

I was up at 5!

Heck, by 5:00a.m. I've already drank 2 cups of coffee and written 3 memos...You guys are slackers....

[Bpm0014]

"get was a box of Newports and puma sweats...."

I'm surprised at the number of references to past 3rd Bass songs. Seems like a lot of people listened to them. No joke, they were awesome....

[MVSNYC]

Awesome Album

[wonkaticket]

The OP has first hand knowledge of Mr. Nash's trade and is quite the collector. I guess we can expect Pete to address this and many others any day now on his website. I mean after all Pete is all about making the hobby a better place right?

Nice to see Pete's trademark cane was replaced by an umbrella from the clubs lost and found, keep on keeping it real Prime Minister Nash..

[baez578]

Def scam recordings? Hmmm

Here's a "where are they now" piece and Pete's in around 3:35 mark

http://youtu.be/eAZhBA1EBJA

[Ease]

I hope y'all are kidding about liking 3rd Bass. I thought they were completely wack, and I didn't know anyone else who liked them either. To me they were more of a gimmick than Vanilla Ice himself.

[MattyC]

At least in NYC, they were nowhere near the joke Ice was. Ice was a clown with one hit that was a total beat bite off Under Pressure. 3rd Bass was legit with Gas Face, Stepping To The AM, Bklyn-Qns, and Derelicts of Dialect-- all solid cuts that still get a modicum of love to this day, whereas Ice's one song is played by not a DJ on earth, except maybe as a nostalgia laugh at a wedding.

Where I was (Bklyn and Manhattan late 80s thru 90s), 3rd Bass was more or less on par with say a Special ED, yeah they fell off the map but the cuts still get love. Ice went out as a gimmick sorta like Fu Schnickens and Das EfX-- though I cant lie who didn't bump Das when they dropped.

Cactus Album is just not put in same bucket as Vanilla Ice, least not to the hardcore hip hop heads I knew/know. But not all areas were feeling the same stuff, of course.

Not by any means saying Bass gets bumped with the likes of Gang Starr or even Masta Ace, just nowhere near Ice.

[Al C.risafulli]

Somehow I don't think this discussion was the OP's intent.

-Al

[Bpm0014]

Matty C, couldn't agree more. But Masta Ace???? Please replace Masta Ace with Eric B and Rakim.... Thanks.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

The OP has first hand knowledge of Mr. Nash's trade and is quite the collector. I guess we can expect Pete to address this and many others any day now on his website. I mean after all Pete is all about making the hobby a better place right?

Nice to see Pete's trademark cane was replaced by an umbrella from the clubs lost and found, keep on keeping it real Prime Minister Nash..

Yes he does.

[Sunny]

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

The OP has first hand knowledge of Mr. Nash's trade and is quite the collector. I guess we can expect Pete to address this and many others any day now on his website. I mean after all Pete is all about making the hobby a better place right?

Nice to see Pete's trademark cane was replaced by an umbrella from the clubs lost and found, keep on keeping it real Prime Minister Nash..

Good observation about Peter Nash carrying an umbrella on stage instead of his cane. What happen to his cane? I know that Nash sold his Henry Chadwick gold headed cane in Robert Edward Auctions back in 2007 for $7,475 it’s interesting to note this gold headed cane is engraved “Presented to Henry Chadwick by his Brothers, Christmas 1885” which I believe refers to his “Brothers” at the Brooklyn Elks Lodge No. 22 that Henry Chadwick belong too. Members of the Elks call themselves Brothers and in the late 1800’s it was common that Elks members would receive gold headed canes. See link:

http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/.../2004/466.html

It’s puzzling why Peter Nash didn’t correct the description of the write up on the Henry Chadwick cane when Robert Edward Auctions sold it. Anybody that has ever read Nash’s Hauls of Shame website can see how Peter Nash can write extreme details about the memorabilia he writes about but why not on this great artifact that belonged to Henry Chadwick that Nash owned. Could it be that Peter Nash is hiding something? When I was a very close friend of Peter Nash’s he told me that when he was a musician he had this barber in Brooklyn that told him about a friend that belonged to an Elks Club in Brooklyn that had a large collection of old painted baseballs and trophies and other stuff. Nash told me it was one of his best finds ever and he scored big on it.
Recently I spoke to Fran Henry, Henry Chadwick’s great, great granddaughter and she told me that when Peter Nash bought a large collection of Henry Chadwick items from her back around 2002 that the Henry Chadwick Gold Headed cane was not part of her collection and that Peter Nash told her that he owned the Henry Chadwick Gold cane for a long time and that he used it in his performances on stage when he was a musician. That would place Peter Nash with the Chadwick cane around 1990. John Thorn, official historian for MLB recently wrote an article about Fran Henry, see link:

http://ourgame.mlblogs.com/2013/07/1...enry-chadwick/

So were did Peter Nash get this Chadwick cane from? I guess it was part of the Brooklyn Elks Club collection. Where did Nash get the 1903 World Series baseball that Cy Young owned and donated to the Brooklyn Elks #22 in 1953 which Peter Nash sold in 1994? This same 1903 World Series ball was sold recently by Legendary Auctions for $65,725. Peter Nash where did you get the 2 Abe Yager Brooklyn baseball scrapbooks and the Henry Chadwick framed picture of his gravesite that you gave me as collateral these 3 items are stamped (BPOE No. 22) which means Brooklyn Elks Lodge No. 22. Where did you get the miscellaneous group of Brooklyn Elks items that you gave me as collateral including the very old gold medal that says” Brooklyn 22 B.P.O. E.” that you gave me as collateral? Maybe the medal was owned by Henry Chadwick? I need to know the provenance of all the collateral you gave me as collateral. Early this year you refused to give me provenance on the Ed Delahanty bat. As you are aware I spoke to Jerry Casway that wrote the book “Ed Delahanty in the Emerald Age of Baseball” Mr. Casway told me you are friends with him and that you speak with him about once a week for the past three years. Mr. Casway told me the Delahanty bat is real but you refused to tell him the provenance of the Delehanty bat. Where did you get Ed Delahanty's 1887 pocket watch that's now in "The National Pastime Museum”? Not giving me provenance makes no sense! It’s obviously in Roxanne Nash’s best interest and yours to sell the collateral items at the highest price possible to reduce your debt. My wife, Lisa and I have a large Judgment against you and your wife, Roxanne totaling over $475,000 when adding on the 8 ½ % interest accruing on the Judgment. Peter Nash please send me a detail list of the provenance of all the collateral you gave me. For instance I need the provenance of the George Wright old timer’s reunion hat you gave me as collateral. Although it make no sense for you not to give me the provenance but if don’t I will depose you and Roxanne for an asset deposition and in the end you will pay for any legal expenses I incur because I have the right to go back to the judge and ask for legal fees and cost. Peter Nash you have been Order by the judge to return the 1912 Red Sox World Series Player Diamond Stickpin that you stole from my wife, Lisa and I. As you are aware you gave this 1912 WS gold diamond stickpin to Al Angelo as collateral and also gave the 1868 Albumen photo of Brooklyn Atlantics to Mr. Angelo as collateral. I want both items returned immediately. I have a legal document signed by you and Mr. Angelo that says Mr. Angelo has those items. In your deposition in June of 2009 you stated that Al Angelo has the 1912 WS diamond stickpin.

By the way Peter Nash I’ve been in touch with Katherine Dooley’s law firm and they have supplied me with some documents including your receipt of 54 items that you bought from Katherine Dooley for $25,000 and a receipt for when you purchased the 2 scrapbooks for $1,000 given to her father by John Drohan. So please don’t be afraid to give me provenance of the McGreevy items and other items you gave me as collateral that you acquired from the Dooley family. The cat is out of the bag! No reason to plead the fifth this time! Just thing how much you could have sold that Hugh Duffy 1898 trophy for if you had told the truth! What about the Babe Ruth signed Mitt or the Mike Kelly bat or Hugh Duffy bat or the Cap Anson bat that Nuf Ced McGreevy once owned. Why did you plead the fifth, it make no sense! Where you afraid to tell people that the old lady was giving you stuff? I saw Katherine Dooley give you some items in August of 2007 when you and I were at her house in Milton, MA with the film crew. Bottom line Peter Nash you need to the truth!

[barrysloate]

Amazing!

[Deertick]

Has anyone seen "White Betsy"?

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by Sunny

Good observation about Peter Nash carrying an umbrella on stage instead of his cane. What happen to his cane? I know that Nash sold his Henry Chadwick gold headed cane in Robert Edward Auctions back in 2007 for $7,475 it’s interesting to note this gold headed cane is engraved “Presented to Henry Chadwick by his Brothers, Christmas 1885” which I believe refers to his “Brothers” at the Brooklyn Elks Lodge No. 22 that Henry Chadwick belong too. Members of the Elks call themselves Brothers and in the late 1800’s it was common that Elks members would receive gold headed canes. See link:

http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/.../2004/466.html

It’s puzzling why Peter Nash didn’t correct the description of the write up on the Henry Chadwick cane when Robert Edward Auctions sold it. Anybody that has ever read Nash’s Hauls of Shame website can see how Peter Nash can write extreme details about the memorabilia he writes about but why not on this great artifact that belonged to Henry Chadwick that Nash owned. Could it be that Peter Nash is hiding something? When I was a very close friend of Peter Nash’s he told me that when he was a musician he had this barber in Brooklyn that told him about a friend that belonged to an Elks Club in Brooklyn that had a large collection of old painted baseballs and trophies and other stuff. Nash told me it was one of his best finds ever and he scored big on it.
Recently I spoke to Fran Henry, Henry Chadwick’s great, great granddaughter and she told me that when Peter Nash bought a large collection of Henry Chadwick items from her back around 2002 that the Henry Chadwick Gold Headed cane was not part of her collection and that Peter Nash told her that he owned the Henry Chadwick Gold cane for a long time and that he used it in his performances on stage when he was a musician. That would place Peter Nash with the Chadwick cane around 1990. John Thorn, official historian for MLB recently wrote an article about Fran Henry, see link:

http://ourgame.mlblogs.com/2013/07/1...enry-chadwick/

So were did Peter Nash get this Chadwick cane from? I guess it was part of the Brooklyn Elks Club collection. Where did Nash get the 1903 World Series baseball that Cy Young owned and donated to the Brooklyn Elks #22 in 1953 which Peter Nash sold in 1994? This same 1903 World Series ball was sold recently by Legendary Auctions for $65,725. Peter Nash where did you get the 2 Abe Yager Brooklyn baseball scrapbooks and the Henry Chadwick framed picture of his gravesite that you gave me as collateral these 3 items are stamped (BPOE No. 22) which means Brooklyn Elks Lodge No. 22. Where did you get the miscellaneous group of Brooklyn Elks items that you gave me as collateral including the very old gold medal that says” Brooklyn 22 B.P.O. E.” that you gave me as collateral? Maybe the medal was owned by Henry Chadwick? I need to know the provenance of all the collateral you gave me as collateral. Early this year you refused to give me provenance on the Ed Delahanty bat. As you are aware I spoke to Jerry Casway that wrote the book “Ed Delahanty in the Emerald Age of Baseball” Mr. Casway told me you are friends with him and that you speak with him about once a week for the past three years. Mr. Casway told me the Delahanty bat is real but you refused to tell him the provenance of the Delehanty bat. Where did you get the Ed Delahanty pocket Watch that now is in the “National Past Time Museum”? Not giving me provenance makes no sense! It’s obviously in Roxanne Nash’s best interest and yours to sell the collateral items at the highest price possible to reduce your debt. My wife, Lisa and I have a large Judgment against you and your wife, Roxanne totaling over $475,000 when adding on the 8 ½ % interest accruing on the Judgment. Peter Nash please send me a detail list of the provenance of all the collateral you gave me. For instance I need the provenance of the George Wright old timer’s reunion hat you gave me as collateral. Although it make no sense for you not to give me the provenance but if don’t I will depose you and Roxanne for an asset deposition and in the end you will pay for any legal expenses I incur because I have the right to go back to the judge and ask for legal fees and cost. Peter Nash you have been Order by the judge to return the 1912 Red Sox World Series Player Diamond Stickpin that you stole from my wife, Lisa and I. As you are aware you gave this 1912 WS gold diamond stickpin to Al Angelo as collateral and also gave the 1868 Albumen photo of Brooklyn Atlantics to Mr. Angelo as collateral. I want both items returned immediately. I have a legal document signed by you and Mr. Angelo that says Mr. Angelo has those items. In your deposition in June of 2009 you stated that Al Angelo has the 1912 WS diamond stickpin.
By the way Peter Nash I’ve been in touch with Katherine Dooley’s law firm and they have supplied me with some documents including your receipt of 54 items that you bought from Katherine Dooley for $25,000 and a receipt for when you purchased the 2 scrapbooks for $1,000 given to her father by John Drohan. So please don’t be afraid to give me provenance of the McGreevy items and other items you gave me as collateral that you acquired from the Dooley family. The cat is out of the bag! No reason to plead the fifth this time! Just thing how much you could have sold that Hugh Duffy 1898 trophy for if you had told the truth! What about the Babe Ruth signed Mitt or the Mike Kelly bat or Hugh Duffy bat or the Cap Anson bat that Nuf Ced McGreevy once owned. Why did you plead the fifth, it make no sense! Where you afraid to tell people that the old lady was giving you stuff? I saw Katherine Dooley give you some items in August of 2007 when you and I were at her house in Milton, MA with the film crew. Bottom line Peter Nash you need to the truth!

Thank you for posting this information...perhaps it is enough to get the few Net54 members who are supporting Nash with info or constantly linking to his website to stop. Perhaps it's also enough to get this thread back on track.

[rc4157]

OK, I read some of the early threads on this and then came back to it today.

I'm with the oldies.....Beatles, Elvis. etc.....

I have no idea who some of these other performers are/were....it will probably stay that way.
RC

[Al C.risafulli]

Pop-pop goes the weasel.

-Al