Hauls of Shame - Who is Peter Nash?

slidekellyslide · #1 08-30-2013, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Sunny

Good observation about Peter Nash carrying an umbrella on stage instead of his cane. What happen to his cane? I know that Nash sold his Henry Chadwick gold headed cane in Robert Edward Auctions back in 2007 for $7,475 it�s interesting to note this gold headed cane is engraved �Presented to Henry Chadwick by his Brothers, Christmas 1885� which I believe refers to his �Brothers� at the Brooklyn Elks Lodge No. 22 that Henry Chadwick belong too. Members of the Elks call themselves Brothers and in the late 1800�s it was common that Elks members would receive gold headed canes. See link:

http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/.../2004/466.html

It�s puzzling why Peter Nash didn�t correct the description of the write up on the Henry Chadwick cane when Robert Edward Auctions sold it. Anybody that has ever read Nash�s Hauls of Shame website can see how Peter Nash can write extreme details about the memorabilia he writes about but why not on this great artifact that belonged to Henry Chadwick that Nash owned. Could it be that Peter Nash is hiding something? When I was a very close friend of Peter Nash�s he told me that when he was a musician he had this barber in Brooklyn that told him about a friend that belonged to an Elks Club in Brooklyn that had a large collection of old painted baseballs and trophies and other stuff. Nash told me it was one of his best finds ever and he scored big on it.
Recently I spoke to Fran Henry, Henry Chadwick�s great, great granddaughter and she told me that when Peter Nash bought a large collection of Henry Chadwick items from her back around 2002 that the Henry Chadwick Gold Headed cane was not part of her collection and that Peter Nash told her that he owned the Henry Chadwick Gold cane for a long time and that he used it in his performances on stage when he was a musician. That would place Peter Nash with the Chadwick cane around 1990. John Thorn, official historian for MLB recently wrote an article about Fran Henry, see link:

http://ourgame.mlblogs.com/2013/07/1...enry-chadwick/

So were did Peter Nash get this Chadwick cane from? I guess it was part of the Brooklyn Elks Club collection. Where did Nash get the 1903 World Series baseball that Cy Young owned and donated to the Brooklyn Elks #22 in 1953 which Peter Nash sold in 1994? This same 1903 World Series ball was sold recently by Legendary Auctions for $65,725. Peter Nash where did you get the 2 Abe Yager Brooklyn baseball scrapbooks and the Henry Chadwick framed picture of his gravesite that you gave me as collateral these 3 items are stamped (BPOE No. 22) which means Brooklyn Elks Lodge No. 22. Where did you get the miscellaneous group of Brooklyn Elks items that you gave me as collateral including the very old gold medal that says� Brooklyn 22 B.P.O. E.� that you gave me as collateral? Maybe the medal was owned by Henry Chadwick? I need to know the provenance of all the collateral you gave me as collateral. Early this year you refused to give me provenance on the Ed Delahanty bat. As you are aware I spoke to Jerry Casway that wrote the book �Ed Delahanty in the Emerald Age of Baseball� Mr. Casway told me you are friends with him and that you speak with him about once a week for the past three years. Mr. Casway told me the Delahanty bat is real but you refused to tell him the provenance of the Delehanty bat. Where did you get the Ed Delahanty pocket Watch that now is in the �National Past Time Museum�? Not giving me provenance makes no sense! It�s obviously in Roxanne Nash�s best interest and yours to sell the collateral items at the highest price possible to reduce your debt. My wife, Lisa and I have a large Judgment against you and your wife, Roxanne totaling over $475,000 when adding on the 8 � % interest accruing on the Judgment. Peter Nash please send me a detail list of the provenance of all the collateral you gave me. For instance I need the provenance of the George Wright old timer�s reunion hat you gave me as collateral. Although it make no sense for you not to give me the provenance but if don�t I will depose you and Roxanne for an asset deposition and in the end you will pay for any legal expenses I incur because I have the right to go back to the judge and ask for legal fees and cost. Peter Nash you have been Order by the judge to return the 1912 Red Sox World Series Player Diamond Stickpin that you stole from my wife, Lisa and I. As you are aware you gave this 1912 WS gold diamond stickpin to Al Angelo as collateral and also gave the 1868 Albumen photo of Brooklyn Atlantics to Mr. Angelo as collateral. I want both items returned immediately. I have a legal document signed by you and Mr. Angelo that says Mr. Angelo has those items. In your deposition in June of 2009 you stated that Al Angelo has the 1912 WS diamond stickpin.
By the way Peter Nash I�ve been in touch with Katherine Dooley�s law firm and they have supplied me with some documents including your receipt of 54 items that you bought from Katherine Dooley for $25,000 and a receipt for when you purchased the 2 scrapbooks for $1,000 given to her father by John Drohan. So please don�t be afraid to give me provenance of the McGreevy items and other items you gave me as collateral that you acquired from the Dooley family. The cat is out of the bag! No reason to plead the fifth this time! Just thing how much you could have sold that Hugh Duffy 1898 trophy for if you had told the truth! What about the Babe Ruth signed Mitt or the Mike Kelly bat or Hugh Duffy bat or the Cap Anson bat that Nuf Ced McGreevy once owned. Why did you plead the fifth, it make no sense! Where you afraid to tell people that the old lady was giving you stuff? I saw Katherine Dooley give you some items in August of 2007 when you and I were at her house in Milton, MA with the film crew. Bottom line Peter Nash you need to the truth!

Thank you for posting this information...perhaps it is enough to get the few Net54 members who are supporting Nash with info or constantly linking to his website to stop. Perhaps it's also enough to get this thread back on track.

rc4157 · #2 08-30-2013, 05:51 PM

OK, I read some of the early threads on this and then came back to it today.

I'm with the oldies.....Beatles, Elvis. etc.....

I have no idea who some of these other performers are/were....it will probably stay that way.
RC

Al C.risafulli · #3 08-30-2013, 05:58 PM

Pop-pop goes the weasel.

-Al

wonkaticket · #4 08-30-2013, 07:01 PM

Robert, great post. Hopefully you can be made solid on this mess one day shame you as a collector have been a victim of such bad stuff. Not to mention the threats about folks coming to "break your legs" correct?

Also those great photos that seemed to not add up from our good pal Mr. Nash.

Seems our white knight of hobby cleanup is rather dirty and like many of the trophy balls he once owned quite tarnished.

Cheers,

John

P.S. I�ll be on the lookout for the Henry Chadwick umbrella soon.

Sunny · #5 08-31-2013, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by wonkaticket

Robert, great post. Hopefully you can be made solid on this mess one day shame you as a collector have been a victim of such bad stuff. Not to mention the threats about folks coming to "break your legs" correct?

Also those great photos that seemed to not add up from our good pal Mr. Nash.

Seems our white knight of hobby cleanup is rather dirty and like many of the trophy balls he once owned quite tarnished.

Cheers,

John

P.S. I’ll be on the lookout for the Henry Chadwick umbrella soon.

John, it is true that Peter Nash did threaten me to have my legs broken because my wife, Lisa and I refused to sell the 1912 Red Sox World Series Trophy to him and McGreevy’s Bar in Boston, MA. (Nash has a minority stake in McGreevy’s bar). Here are a few paragraphs from the lawsuit which was a verified complaint when we sued the Nash’s.

69. Nash told Robert that the Frasers would make a “great profit” by selling the 1912 Red Sox World Series Trophy to him, as he would pay the most because he needed to have it for McGreevy’s.

70. Robert told Nash that he and Lisa had decided to put the 1912 Red Sox World Series Trophy up for auction to obtain the best price possible.

71. Nash became extremely angry and threatened Robert, saying that if the 1912 Red Sox World Series Trophy were not sold to him he would “send someone to break your legs”. (The threat was reported to law enforcement authorities.) Nash went on to state, “If you put the [1912 Red Sox World Series] Trophy up for auction, I will interfere with the sale.”

It should be noted that Nash lied to his partners at McGreevy’s by claiming he owned 50% of the 1912 Red Sox World Series Trophy. The truth is Nash had no ownership in the trophy and he was worried that his partners would sue or remove him for lying to them about the true ownership of the 1912 trophy.

The email below is an Exhibit Peter Nash used in a Certification to the court. He wanted Ken Casey one his partners at McGreevy’s Bar to testify to this audio tape/transcript. (Ken Casey is the singer for the Dropkick Murphys). Ken Casey must have been delighted that Peter Nash wanted him to testify to this audio tape/transcript. It’s shocking that Nash could actually think that this statement could help him, it only helped my lawsuit. In plain English it’s delusional! Definition of delusional in the Encarta Dictionary: English (North America)

1. False belief - a persistent false belief held in the face of strong contradictory evidence, especially as a symptom of a psychiatric condition

2. Mistaken notion - a false or mistaken belief or idea about something

From: "Peter Nash"
To: "Erin l. Henderson"
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 10:43 AM
Subject: Audio Tape/transcript
Erin,
The audio tape with the phone voice mail from my partner Ken Casey took place on Saturday April 19th, 2008 at 4:24 pm FROM xxx-xxx-xxxx. (22 SECONDS)

Vice Mail Transcript:

Ken Casey: Pete, it's Kenny. I got that 150 cash. let's get down there with a f**kin bag of money and a baseball bat and a f**kin pen and a piece of paper. Give me a call back.

Peter

PS I have the tape, don't have a dupe deck?

Rich Klein · #6 08-31-2013, 03:47 AM

But love certain songs from the 60's
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvMBxlu62c0

wonkaticket · #7 08-31-2013, 04:33 AM

Unreal Robert, I heard rough details but that's crazy. Hopefully when folks stop talking music they will take notice of what you have shared here. It's really quite the insight into Mr. Nash.

Thanks again for sharing.

Cheers,

John

slidekellyslide · #8 08-31-2013, 06:16 AM

Let's stop talking about music in this thread and keep it on track please.

btcarfagno · #9 08-31-2013, 06:15 PM

Wait a minute. Hold up. If I spent the 90's listening to retro swing and ska from bands like Squirrel Nut Zippers and Dem Brooklyn Bums and Indigo Swing and Lee Press On And The Nails etc....

....does that make me a loser? No? Who's with me? Squirrel Nut Zippers? Anyone?

Maybe not.

Tom C

Deertick · #10 08-31-2013, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sunny

From: "Peter Nash"
To: "Erin l. Henderson"
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 10:43 AM
Subject: Audio Tape/transcript
Erin,
The audio tape with the phone voice mail from my partner Ken Casey took place on Saturday April 19th, 2008 at 4:24 pm FROM xxx-xxx-xxxx. (22 SECONDS)

Vice Mail Transcript:

Ken Casey: Pete, it's Kenny. I got that 150 cash. let's get down there with a f**kin bag of money and a baseball bat and a f**kin pen and a piece of paper. Give me a call back.

Peter

PS I have the tape, don't have a dupe deck?

Robert,
Isn't it time to let bygones be bygones? I mean, in a week it will be TWO years ago!! People change! Peter changed! He is a Crusader For All That Is Good And Ethical.

Now back off or else. I can still swing a bat and I could use the money, if you know what I mean.

Runscott · #11 08-31-2013, 02:23 PM

BAM!

Wow - I took credit for an idea that JAY actually came up with

This thread has it all: 'where is the provenance?', etc:

2003 Net 54 discussion about 1869 Red Stockings Clock Full 'o Balls

wonkaticket · #12 08-31-2013, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deertick

Robert,
Isn't it time to let bygones be bygones? I mean, in a week it will be TWO years ago!! People change! Peter changed! He is a Crusader For All That Is Good And Ethical.

Now back off or else. I can still swing a bat and I could use the money, if you know what I mean.

Jim, the above Nash is a “Crusader for All” is meant to be tongue and cheek correct?

Also for the record, if somebody threatened to break my legs, and ripped me off not sure why I would need to let it go two years later or ever for that matter. Not letting these little gems go doesn’t make Robert a bad man here how can anyone in there right mind turn that around on him? He’s a victim of this set of circumstances not the perpetrator. Again if you were joking please ignore.

If not and you're sincere in your statement then I have to wonder how you or anyone else can support someone who is so quick to point everyone else’s frauds yet won’t come clean on his own.

As said a million times all of which seem to fall on deaf ears both Peter’s and his fans.

When Peter comes clean, pays his bills or makes a real attempt to. Faces his legal issues head on vs. hiding and taking the fifth. Then and only then after that little baptism by fire will I consider defending Peter Nash’s new turned over leaf and self-appointed position of “hobby crusader”. Until then he’s just a another conman who is putting up smoke screens to draw attention away from his own current issues and abysmal past.

Runscott · #13 08-30-2013, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Al C.risafulli

Pop-pop goes the weasel.

-Al

'cause the weasel goes pop?

The weasel in question definitely needs to go 'pop'.

PhilNap · #14 08-30-2013, 10:47 PM

What? No love for Big Daddy Kane from this crew?

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