Hauls of Shame - Who is Peter Nash?

MattyC · #1 08-31-2013, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Rich Klein

One important characteristic of the modern "hip-hip" era is a denial of responsibility when something goes wrong.
Rich

Professor,

Thanks for imparting your deep knowledge (or is it just a sweeping generalization?) of the hip hop era. I surmise you came to this epiphany by listening to tons of KRS?

The denial of responsibility is an individual choice, not a trait of fans of a specific type of music. One could just as easily argue the denial of responsibility was alive and well in the stoner ethos of the 70's.

You also said:

"In the hip-hop and rap culture fostered in the early 1990's by groups such as 3rd Base, that same natural selection of "I'm famous, you can not touch me" began. "

Awkward phrasing aside (natural selection?), the famous began feeling untouchable long before 1990.

Cardboard Junkie · #2 08-31-2013, 11:31 AM

"One important characteristic of the modern 'hip hop' era is a denial of responsibility when something goes wrong." Rich Klein (DICK)
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Rich Klein · #3 08-31-2013, 01:13 PM

Like I always tell you, being insulted by you is a badge of honor as you obviously have nothing better to do with your time but be a trouble maker who has already been booted off the board once and is well on a way to a 2nd boot

Rich

drcy · #4 08-31-2013, 01:25 PM

I'm not into rap and have no insightful opinion on that genre for or against, but should note, before we have too many stereotypes about musical types, that last week I saw an interview with the deceased Metal Goth singer Peter Steele in which he said he thought kids today spend too much time spend too much time playing video and it's important for parents to spend more time with their kids. He also said his favorite job he ever had was working for the New York City parks department, and he was very proud when he was promoted to a parks supervisor position.

So the person doesn't always match the persona. In fact, he said his formidable stage act was just that, an act, and in real life he was just a big kid with a shy streak.

oldjudge · #5 08-31-2013, 01:27 PM

Help me with the new facts disclosed here. Peter Nash bought some memorabilia from a Brooklyn Elks club and a relative of Henry Chadwick. James wanted to know the provenance of some collateral he took from Peter Nash long after he took the collateral (why wouldn't he ask before he took it). Peter Nash allegedly threatened James. Am I missing any of the facts? BTW, I have always liked "Product of the Environment" as well as "Brooklyn-Queens".

Runscott · #6 08-31-2013, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by oldjudge

Help me with the new facts disclosed here. Peter Nash bought some memorabilia from a Brooklyn Elks club and a relative of Henry Chadwick. James wanted to know the provenance of some collateral he took from Peter Nash long after he took the collateral (why wouldn't he ask before he took it). Peter Nash allegedly threatened James. Am I missing any of the facts? BTW, I have always liked "Product of the Environment" as well as "Brooklyn-Queens".

Jay, I wouldn't ask you (or anyone else who I respect and might do a huge business deal with) for provenance of any collateral you gave me, but if I found out later that you were a lying thief and that I might be about to experience semi-financial ruin because of your dishonesty, I'd probably want to start getting my ducks lined up in a row.

oldjudge · #7 08-31-2013, 02:06 PM

Scott--I agree on cards and maybe photographs, but on memorabilia I would always ask for provenance, no matter where I was getting it, and especially if it was to be used as collateral.

Runscott · #8 08-31-2013, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by oldjudge

Scott--I agree on cards and maybe photographs, but on memorabilia I would always ask for provenance, no matter where I was getting it, and especially if it was to be used as collateral.

Yes, I guess I have to agree with you, especially since even honest people can make mistakes. My guess would be that Nash provided 'enough' provenance to satisfy anyone who already trusted him. For instance, that collection of balls in the grandfather clock (what a laugher!!!!) - I'm sure there was some sort of letter associated with it, but obviously it was all bullshit.

BTW, do you remember us discussing that in here? That was a good time. I would love to find that old thread - I brought up that it looked like a grandfather clock to me, but I don't remember the thoughts of others.

Cardboard Junkie · #9 08-31-2013, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Klein

Like I always tell you, being insulted by you is a badge of honor as you obviously have nothing better to do with your time but be a trouble maker who has already been booted off the board once and is well on a way to a 2nd boot

Rich

You keep saying that Dick, but it is YOU who got schooled by the mods in this thread. BTW just because I disagree with you doesnt mean I'm insulting you. Dave.

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